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Moshe92:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 05, 2009, 10:16:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 05, 2009, 10:10:09 PM ---
http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=3907
This says it is a violation of a Rabbinical injunction.
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Interesting, howcome they don't cite any source or show what the halacha is?
I don't usually like that kind of website for halachic opinions for exactly that reason.
What exactly is the "rabbinic injunction" they refer to?
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I agree. The rabbi doesn't really explain the answer. He just goes off on a tangent about the relation between the written torah and the oral torah since the person asking the question is clearly clueless.
Yochai:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 05, 2009, 10:16:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 05, 2009, 10:10:09 PM ---
http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=3907
This says it is a violation of a Rabbinical injunction.
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Interesting, howcome they don't cite any source or show what the halacha is?
I don't usually like that kind of website for halachic opinions for exactly that reason.
What exactly is the "rabbinic injunction" they refer to?
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I agree with you that it is not a good summation, but the conclusion is correct. If it was not, then Orthodox Jews would not really have to observe Shabbat, because according to that logic a Goy can do every single thing for them and it's all fine.
When you are in a car, there is extra gasoline burning because of your presence in the car. That alone would constitute melacha, as the fuel is burning for your sake, and nobody elses.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 05, 2009, 10:30:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 05, 2009, 10:16:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 05, 2009, 10:10:09 PM ---
http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=3907
This says it is a violation of a Rabbinical injunction.
--- End quote ---
Interesting, howcome they don't cite any source or show what the halacha is?
I don't usually like that kind of website for halachic opinions for exactly that reason.
What exactly is the "rabbinic injunction" they refer to?
--- End quote ---
I agree with you that it is not a good summation, but the conclusion is correct. If it was not, then Orthodox Jews would not really have to observe Shabbat, because according to that logic a Goy can do every single thing for them and it's all fine.
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Well I know for sure it is not fine if you are asking that goy to do the things for you. You cannot instruct or ask a nonJew to do melacha for you. But where I don't understand is for what reason is it forbidden if he does it of his own accord.
The car using extra gas for another person, that seems a stretch. But maybe.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
Slight tangent, but how would I go about refuting the haredim that use Arabs as shabbat goy?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Bonesfan on September 06, 2009, 09:22:01 AM ---Slight tangent, but how would I go about refuting the haredim that use Arabs as shabbat goy?
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What is there to refute? Shabbat Goys are ok... I employ one {not an arab, of course} occasionally when there are emergencies in the house on Shabbat..
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