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Rosh Hashanna Falls out on Shabbat this year
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Moshe92 on September 03, 2009, 07:58:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 07:03:31 PM ---Why not put the shofar into the shul beforehand? And then after blowing the shofar and the service ends, leave it there in the shul, so there is no danger of carrying anything.... ?
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I heard someone say once that the shofar can't be blown on shabbat because someone may forget to bring it to the shul before shabbat.
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But then the result is the same. If you forget to bring the shofar, you can't blow it. If you did bring it ahead of time, then you're good. Forbidding it just makes sure no one can do it. ever.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on September 03, 2009, 08:34:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 08:33:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 03, 2009, 07:44:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 07:03:31 PM ---Why not put the shofar into the shul beforehand? And then after blowing the shofar and the service ends, leave it there in the shul, so there is no danger of carrying anything.... ?
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Pirkei Avot 1:1- ".... and make a fence for the Torah"
I am guessing this is one of those fences.
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Also, what if there is an eruv? Don't people also say you CAN carry on Shabbat if there is an eruv?
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It depends who you hold by. In most ashkenazic communities an eruv is the green light for carrying.
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But the same ashkenazi communities say you can't blow shofar because of carrying? That makes no sense.
The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 08:36:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on September 03, 2009, 08:34:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 08:33:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 03, 2009, 07:44:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 07:03:31 PM ---Why not put the shofar into the shul beforehand? And then after blowing the shofar and the service ends, leave it there in the shul, so there is no danger of carrying anything.... ?
--- End quote ---
Pirkei Avot 1:1- ".... and make a fence for the Torah"
I am guessing this is one of those fences.
--- End quote ---
Also, what if there is an eruv? Don't people also say you CAN carry on Shabbat if there is an eruv?
--- End quote ---
It depends who you hold by. In most ashkenazic communities an eruv is the green light for carrying.
--- End quote ---
But the same ashkenazi communities say you can't blow shofar because of carrying? That makes no sense.
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Shofar blowing is not allowed on Shabbos, therefore you can't CARRY anything that is not allowed to be used on Shabbos.
Moshe92:
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on September 03, 2009, 08:37:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 08:36:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on September 03, 2009, 08:34:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 08:33:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yochai on September 03, 2009, 07:44:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on September 03, 2009, 07:03:31 PM ---Why not put the shofar into the shul beforehand? And then after blowing the shofar and the service ends, leave it there in the shul, so there is no danger of carrying anything.... ?
--- End quote ---
Pirkei Avot 1:1- ".... and make a fence for the Torah"
I am guessing this is one of those fences.
--- End quote ---
Also, what if there is an eruv? Don't people also say you CAN carry on Shabbat if there is an eruv?
--- End quote ---
It depends who you hold by. In most ashkenazic communities an eruv is the green light for carrying.
--- End quote ---
But the same ashkenazi communities say you can't blow shofar because of carrying? That makes no sense.
--- End quote ---
Shofar blowing is not allowed on Shabbos, therefore you can't CARRY anything that is not allowed to be used on Shabbos.
--- End quote ---
But doesn't the reason why shofar blowing is not allowed in the first place on shabbat have to do with carrying?
Yochai:
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on September 03, 2009, 08:27:55 PM ---Anybody here ever gone to Umman for Rosh Hashana?
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No, but I have heard it is a great experience, although for the life of me I do not understand how people leave Israel for the High Holidays, which is the one time that I think it is best to be in Eretz Yisrael.
If you wish to go, I have heard that Breslovers set the whole thing up at minimal expense to yourself.
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