Ugly Rapist Beast Arrested In Murder of Petite Asian Yale Grad Student

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

its nice to see that people believe in "innocent until proven guilty" here...

It is true that we should not judge without knowing the facts...

Is it not suspicious that the man had scratches and bruises? Add to this the DNA evidence? It sounds like it will be an easy case...

yes, but he still has not been convicted of a crime.

Yeah and neither was El Sayid Nosair.    Yet, he was guilty.

Nosair was convicted...

Not convicted for what he actually did.   Was convicted on a lower charge.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Nosair was convicted...

Nosair was NOT convicted of murdering Rabbi Kahane, he was ACQUITTED of that crime despite how clearly guilty he was.   That was an OJ-like travesty, and I'm sure there were some dumb animals on the jury, and he had a slimeball lawyer that got him off with deception.   

Man you really should be informed before you speak.
 

[t_h_j]

Nosair was convicted...

Nosair was NOT convicted of murdering Rabbi Kahane, he was ACQUITTED of that crime despite how clearly guilty he was.   That was an OJ-like travesty, and I'm sure there were some dumb animals on the jury, and he had a slimeball lawyer that got him off with deception.   

Man you really should be informed before you speak.
 

"One of the defendants, El Sayyid Nosair, also was found guilty of the 1991 killing of extremist Rabbi Meir Kahane. "
http://www.cnn.com/US/9510/terror_trial/update/

[Americanhero1]

Assassination of Meir Kahane
In 1990, Nosair assassinated Meir Kahane, the controversial leader of the Jewish Defense League and Kach, in Manhattan. The Kahane assassination occurred on November 5, 1990, shortly after 9 p.m., following a speech to an audience of mostly orthodox Jews from Brooklyn. A crowd of well-wishers gathered around Kahane following the speech in the second-floor lecture hall in midtown Manhattan's Marriott East Side Hotel. El Sayyid Nosair, who was among the crowd wearing a red leisure suit and white patent leather shoes, drew a gun and opened fire, shooting Kahane in the neck.

Nosair then made a getaway, intending to get into a cab driven by an accomplice. Instead, Nosair got into another cab, driven by a Hispanic from the Bronx. When the cab got stuck in traffic, Nosair got out of the cab and attempted to flee on foot. Carlos Acosta, a police officer for the U.S. Postal Service Police, took chase after Nosair, and they exchanged gunfire before Nosair was apprehended.

Both Nosair and Acosta were injured and taken to Bellevue Hospital. Acosta, who was wearing a bullet-proof vest, suffered a gunshot wound in the arm, while Nosair had a gunshot wound to his chin. Also injured was Irving Franklin, a 73-year-old bystander, who was shot in the leg when he tried to stop Nosair from leaving the lecture hall.

 Trial
In a split verdict described by Abramson as "bizarre", a jury in December 1991 acquitted Nosair of the murder but convicted him of assault and possession of an illegal firearm. He was also convicted of related charges, including shooting a U. S. Postal Service Police Officer. He was defended by William Kunstler (along with two co-counsels), who at first advised him to plead insanity. When Nosair refused, the defense argued that there had been a conspiracy against Nosair and Kahane might have been killed by one of his followers. Kunstler saw the composition of the jury (which he described as being made up of "third-world people" and "people who were not yuppies or establishment types") as crucial to the verdict.

The judge in the trial, Justice Alvin Schlesinger, said that the jury's acquittal of Nosair on the murder charge "was against the overwhelming weight of evidence and was devoid of common sense and logic". The judge added that "I believe the defendant conducted a rape of this country, of our Constitution and of our laws, and of people seeking to exist peacefully together." He sentenced Nosair to 7 1/3 to 22 years in prison, the maximally allowed term.

Kunstler also saw the split verdict as irrational, promising to appeal Nosair's convictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sayyid_Nosair

[t_h_j]

Assassination of Meir Kahane
In 1990, Nosair assassinated Meir Kahane, the controversial leader of the Jewish Defense League and Kach, in Manhattan. The Kahane assassination occurred on November 5, 1990, shortly after 9 p.m., following a speech to an audience of mostly orthodox Jews from Brooklyn. A crowd of well-wishers gathered around Kahane following the speech in the second-floor lecture hall in midtown Manhattan's Marriott East Side Hotel. El Sayyid Nosair, who was among the crowd wearing a red leisure suit and white patent leather shoes, drew a gun and opened fire, shooting Kahane in the neck.

Nosair then made a getaway, intending to get into a cab driven by an accomplice. Instead, Nosair got into another cab, driven by a Hispanic from the Bronx. When the cab got stuck in traffic, Nosair got out of the cab and attempted to flee on foot. Carlos Acosta, a police officer for the U.S. Postal Service Police, took chase after Nosair, and they exchanged gunfire before Nosair was apprehended.

Both Nosair and Acosta were injured and taken to Bellevue Hospital. Acosta, who was wearing a bullet-proof vest, suffered a gunshot wound in the arm, while Nosair had a gunshot wound to his chin. Also injured was Irving Franklin, a 73-year-old bystander, who was shot in the leg when he tried to stop Nosair from leaving the lecture hall.

 Trial
In a split verdict described by Abramson as "bizarre", a jury in December 1991 acquitted Nosair of the murder but convicted him of assault and possession of an illegal firearm. He was also convicted of related charges, including shooting a U. S. Postal Service Police Officer. He was defended by William Kunstler (along with two co-counsels), who at first advised him to plead insanity. When Nosair refused, the defense argued that there had been a conspiracy against Nosair and Kahane might have been killed by one of his followers. Kunstler saw the composition of the jury (which he described as being made up of "third-world people" and "people who were not yuppies or establishment types") as crucial to the verdict.

The judge in the trial, Justice Alvin Schlesinger, said that the jury's acquittal of Nosair on the murder charge "was against the overwhelming weight of evidence and was devoid of common sense and logic". The judge added that "I believe the defendant conducted a rape of this country, of our Constitution and of our laws, and of people seeking to exist peacefully together." He sentenced Nosair to 7 1/3 to 22 years in prison, the maximally allowed term.

Kunstler also saw the split verdict as irrational, promising to appeal Nosair's convictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sayyid_Nosair

post the rest too.
Terror conspiracy conviction
Nosair was still serving time in prison on the assault and weapons charges[citation needed] when he was convicted as part of the trial of the "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel-Rahman. Both received life sentences for a Terror conspiracy, in Nosair's case life plus 15 years imprisonment. [11] It was ruled that Kahane's death was part of the total "seditious conspiracy," so Nosair was also convicted of killing Kahane. [12] He is serving his sentence in ADX Florence, the Federal ADX Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.

[angryChineseKahanist]

My question is why is it relevant that the victim was 'petite' or 'asian'?

This brutal murder would be evil no matter who the victim was.

I'm innocent of race bating.
My hands are clean.

BTW its been reported that he's a controling nazi. Or nazi-like because he most likely is not a racist. He just likes little yellow girls. CLEAN THAT RAT CAGE!



"Clark appeared in court with two public defenders who were new to the case. A private-practice attorney who had represented him during the investigation did not attend the hearing and said Thursday he no longer represents Clark. The attorney declined to give a reason."
Private attorney$$$$   vs public defenders **free**.  The atty knows he will lose.  To make things worst, public defenders are beginners. He's going to lose bad.

[briann]

Ugly?
He was reported as handsome and muscular.
And he seems to have a thing for Asians.

Wow, 4ft 11ins and 90LBs!
And skinny.
Talk about tiny.

90 lbs!  Wow, one of my legs weighs 90lbs.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

If you love this animal so much t_h_j, put up the 300 grand to bail his arse out of jail.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

post the rest too.
Terror conspiracy conviction
Nosair was still serving time in prison on the assault and weapons charges[citation needed] when he was convicted as part of the trial of the "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel-Rahman. Both received life sentences for a Terror conspiracy, in Nosair's case life plus 15 years imprisonment. [11] It was ruled that Kahane's death was part of the total "seditious conspiracy," so Nosair was also convicted of killing Kahane. [12] He is serving his sentence in ADX Florence, the Federal ADX Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.

You're obviously missing the point.  The same jury that convicted him of shooting at the postal worker (this happened as he fled the crime scene on the night he murdered Kahane, before being caught by police and onlookers who had chased after him and witnessed it), this same jury deemed him NOT GUILTY of the murder of Rabbi Kahane.   Anyone with any shred of objectivity looking at that evidence can see that a 2 year old could convict Nosair and that he was guilty.    Most or all the info including eyewitness testimony has been released in freedom of information act.     His shyster self-hating attorney pulled a "magic reappearing gun" trick on the jury and they fell for it despite the fact that overwhelming evidence proved Nosair's undeniable guilt.

No matter what some other jury said later.   

And that was my point.   That despite what idiots sometimes think, most (some?) people do use common sense and logic, and it can be applied here, without needing a jury full of third-worlders and uneducated barbarians telling us whether or not they are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that their forearm is attached at the elbow.   Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but use your head, buddy.

So is there a reason why you are pretending as if I was inaccurate in what I said about Nosair?   It's one thing to be ignorant or uninformed.  But obfuscation is far more irritating, and it is intolerable.  So drop the act.

As to the lab case.
The police got a DNA match, and gee, could THAT be why the private attorney from 2 days ago no longer defends him?   LOL, yes because when the attorney is convinced of his client's guilt and/or the client is proven to be a liar and having lied to the attorney by scientific evidence (ie dna), he can no longer morally defend such client when he is convinced of his own client's guilt.   That would be a violation in ethics.   Or if he's slimy, he drops the client because he knows he's got no shot at winning.  Take your pick on this one.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

O.J. Simpson got away with murder too.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

O.J. Simpson got away with murder too.

Exactly.  Some of us know better.   But I guess THJ would have us believe that the verdict in that very publicized trial rendered by a jury of OJ peer's establishes he was innocent and the police arrested the wrong guy even though they found his bloody glove.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

O.J. Simpson got away with murder too.

If the glove don't fit.... mm h'mm ... You must acquit!   
MMMMM hm.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Exactly.  Some of us know better.   But I guess THJ would have us believe that the verdict in that very publicized trial rendered by a jury of OJ peer's establishes he was innocent and the police arrested the wrong guy even though they found his bloody glove.

What do you expect from an Obama-defending troll? He even defended Pat Buchanan once. I used to think t_h_j was Hidden Author (another annoying critic of JTF finally banned after he started making blatantly anti-Semitic posts) but apparently the IPs are totally different, unless he knows how to use a proxy.

[angryChineseKahanist]

Exactly.  Some of us know better.   But I guess THJ would have us believe that the verdict in that very publicized trial rendered by a jury of OJ peer's establishes he was innocent and the police arrested the wrong guy even though they found his bloody glove.

What do you expect from an Obama-defending troll? He even defended Pat Buchanan once. I used to think t_h_j was Hidden Author (another annoying critic of JTF finally banned after he started making blatantly anti-Semitic posts) but apparently the IPs are totally different, unless he knows how to use a proxy.

Anyone who supports racist muslim pig Chairman Osama should be hung from.....err I'm not suppose to say that.

[t_h_j]

Exactly.  Some of us know better.   But I guess THJ would have us believe that the verdict in that very publicized trial rendered by a jury of OJ peer's establishes he was innocent and the police arrested the wrong guy even though they found his bloody glove.

What do you expect from an Obama-defending troll? He even defended Pat Buchanan once. I used to think t_h_j was Hidden Author (another annoying critic of JTF finally banned after he started making blatantly anti-Semitic posts) but apparently the IPs are totally different, unless he knows how to use a proxy.

right, no proof, just more stupid lies.  I'm the troll? Don't you have more stupid threads about celebrities and sending blacks to the middle east to make? 

[t_h_j]

post the rest too.
Terror conspiracy conviction
Nosair was still serving time in prison on the assault and weapons charges[citation needed] when he was convicted as part of the trial of the "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel-Rahman. Both received life sentences for a Terror conspiracy, in Nosair's case life plus 15 years imprisonment. [11] It was ruled that Kahane's death was part of the total "seditious conspiracy," so Nosair was also convicted of killing Kahane. [12] He is serving his sentence in ADX Florence, the Federal ADX Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.

You're obviously missing the point.  The same jury that convicted him of shooting at the postal worker (this happened as he fled the crime scene on the night he murdered Kahane, before being caught by police and onlookers who had chased after him and witnessed it), this same jury deemed him NOT GUILTY of the murder of Rabbi Kahane.   Anyone with any shred of objectivity looking at that evidence can see that a 2 year old could convict Nosair and that he was guilty.    Most or all the info including eyewitness testimony has been released in freedom of information act.     His shyster self-hating attorney pulled a "magic reappearing gun" trick on the jury and they fell for it despite the fact that overwhelming evidence proved Nosair's undeniable guilt.

No matter what some other jury said later.   

And that was my point.   That despite what idiots sometimes think, most (some?) people do use common sense and logic, and it can be applied here, without needing a jury full of third-worlders and uneducated barbarians telling us whether or not they are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that their forearm is attached at the elbow.   Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but use your head, buddy.

So is there a reason why you are pretending as if I was inaccurate in what I said about Nosair?   It's one thing to be ignorant or uninformed.  But obfuscation is far more irritating, and it is intolerable.  So drop the act.

As to the lab case.
The police got a DNA match, and gee, could THAT be why the private attorney from 2 days ago no longer defends him?   LOL, yes because when the attorney is convinced of his client's guilt and/or the client is proven to be a liar and having lied to the attorney by scientific evidence (ie dna), he can no longer morally defend such client when he is convinced of his own client's guilt.   That would be a violation in ethics.   Or if he's slimy, he drops the client because he knows he's got no shot at winning.  Take your pick on this one.

your right, we should just do away with jury trials and just send anyone arrested straight to prison.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I already said that if you really feel this way and want to defend this animal, to put up the 300 big ones it will take to bail his butt out.

I don't see you offering to do that, so shut up.

[t_h_j]

I already said that if you really feel this way and want to defend this animal, to put up the 300 big ones it will take to bail his butt out.

I don't see you offering to do that, so shut up.

That's stupid.  And no, I won't shut up.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

We'll just ignore you then. BTW I notice you didn't say anything when I mentioned the possibility of Hidden Author using a proxy.

[t_h_j]

We'll just ignore you then. BTW I notice you didn't say anything when I mentioned the possibility of Hidden Author using a proxy.

because, again, thats just a stupid statement.  I like how you think you speak for everyone though.

[The One and Only Mo]

Talk about a hot topic. Over 280 views. DAMN!

[angryChineseKahanist]

It is known that Jonathan Widawsky is a Jew.
I just read that Annie was studying to become Jewish.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

your right...

"You're," not "your."   But yes, I am.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

"You're," not "your."   But yes, I am.

t_h_j: pwned.

[Americanhero1]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090918/ap_on_re_us/us_yale_killing
Report details where Yale suspect's DNA was found