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very typical of a leftist like olbermann

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You should have heard Beck today support Israel outright after Obama's speech at UN where he basically gave Israel away. 
We all knew it and today he said it in public.  Unbeleiveable.

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I dont advise non-Jews to fast on the High Holiday of Yom Kippur unless they have the intention of converting to Judaism. The traditions and intentions for the fast must be done properly. I dont think non-Jews should attempt this. Without the proper intention the fast is not beneficial.

Although other religions have fasts the reason behind the fast is important. Yom Kippur fast is special and it should be respected.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Non-Jews are permitted to do acts of repentance in commemoration of Yom Kippur whether or not they fast.  Even though I think non-Jews are actually judged on Rosh Hashana.

That is correct. For a Jew who does Teshuva the judgment of Rosh Hashana can be changed because it is sealed on Yom Kippur... These 10 days between those two holidays {actually 7 days} are meant for repentance. I have been doing this as I have  taken off these 10 days from work {on holiday}.

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« Last Edit: September 23, 2009, 07:26:42 PM by muman613 »
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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If I choose to fast as Glen Beck suggested, I wouldn't be trying to observe the Jewish holiday.
I don't believe that his suggestion was made out of disrespect for the Jewish people.
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If I choose to fast as Glen Beck suggested, I wouldn't be trying to observe the Jewish holiday.
I don't believe that his suggestion was made out of disrespect for the Jewish people.

Oh.. I wasn't implying that... I am sorry if that is what it seemed like... It is just that there are times like when Obama tries to observe the Jewish holidays which kind of mocks the real intention of the holiday... I know Beck would not do that.

I think Beck is doing very, very good and I praise him.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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I dont advise non-Jews to fast on the High Holiday of Yom Kippur unless they have the intention of converting to Judaism. The traditions and intentions for the fast must be done properly. I dont think non-Jews should attempt this. Without the proper intention the fast is not beneficial.

Although other religions have fasts the reason behind the fast is important. Yom Kippur fast is special and it should be respected.


I was loosely paying attention to Beck this morning when he was talking about fasting and I think he did not intend it to be a religious experience for non Jews. I believe he just wants people to stop and contemplate whats happening around them . It not important for non Jew to fast in any particular way since they are not doing it as a religious observance. As I said I think Beck just want the bulk of Americans to stop for a day and take stock of the events around them.
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There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.

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There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.
I don't have to repent for anything Mo2388, but I'll put your post in my circular file for future reference.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2009, 11:36:53 PM by Mishmaat »
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock hi
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 08:14:35 PM »
There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.
Who said that there was any need to repent. The fact that it is Yom Kippur really has no meaning to non Jews. Not that I have any intention of fasting on that day or any other but Beck was not speaking of repent he was speaking about a day of reflection.
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 08:26:55 PM »
we must remember the story of Jonah which we will read on Yom Kippur...

Yonah was asked to go to Nineveh to ask the non-Jewish nation to repent... They did repent through prayer and donning sackcloth..

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 08:41:11 PM »
There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.
I don't have to repent for anything Mo1224, but I'll put your post in my circular file for future reference.

I didn't say that Bullcat3, what I mean was even though one doesn't have to fast they can do anything to "reflect" if they want.

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 08:41:59 PM »
There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.
I don't have to repent for anything Mo1224, but I'll put your post in my circular file for future reference.

I didn't say that Bulldog3, what I mean was even though one doesn't have to fast they can do anything to "reflect" if they want.

Who the hell is bulldog? Mary

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 08:50:55 PM »
Namecalling is uncalled for.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 08:51:43 PM »
Namecalling is uncalled for.


I think he implied we should call him Mary.

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2009, 08:54:13 PM »
Namecalling is uncalled for.


I think he implied we should call him Mary.

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 08:57:55 PM »
There is no point for a non-Jew to fast on Yom Kippur. However, a Gentile CAN repent at any time.
I don't have to repent for anything Mo1224, but I'll put your post in my circular file for future reference.

I didn't say that Bulldog3, what I mean was even though one doesn't have to fast they can do anything to "reflect" if they want.

bulldog3

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 08:58:01 PM »
Fasting on Yom Kippur makes for me no sense.

I think this proposal of Glenn Beck is a Schnapps-idea.  :::D
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2009, 08:58:58 PM »
Chashavti shehu rotzeh et hazayin batoosik.

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 09:01:10 PM »
Namecalling is uncalled for.

Thank You, Muman.  I think that is what AH was trying to say.
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2009, 05:56:26 AM »
Fasting on Yom Kippur makes for me no sense.

I think this proposal of Glenn Beck is a Schnapps-idea.  :::D
No Glenn Beck can't drink he's a Mormon no Schnapps allowed
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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2009, 06:05:05 AM »
For any gentile contemplating on fasting- you should first be aware that for Jews fasting means no eating and no drinking.

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2009, 09:28:51 AM »
I have no problem with gentiles wanting to fast on Yom Kippur. 

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Re: Glenn Beck we should all fast on Yom Kippur Idiot olbermann tries to mock him
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2009, 10:52:55 AM »
I have no problem with gentiles wanting to fast on Yom Kippur. 

I have no problem with this too. There are lots of good people who are attracted to Judaism. Some decide to be Noahides and some want to join completely.

But if you decide to be under the Law, you can't pick according to my believe.

You have to keep then the whole law. Otherwise it can hurt you spiritually.
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