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Why do Jewish women have to be so Damn Liberal?
RationalThought110:
--- Quote from: SaintAugusto on May 20, 2007, 12:20:23 AM ---I cannot confirm that Socialism is more feministic than, lets say, Capitalism. Do not forget, there was no Sexual Revolution in Communist countries. Erotica and pornography were simply banned there. In fact, Western-made erotic & porn movies were considered one of the tools of struggle for the destruction of Soviet Union by the West.
Export of the so-called American way of life to third world countries is deemed to be very "effective" in demoralizing masses.
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Secular progressive wanted to weaken morality.
RationalThought110:
--- Quote from: SaintAugusto on May 20, 2007, 05:08:20 PM ---MarZutra, you are saying that Jewishness is determined by mother. I know, this notion prevails in nowadays. I spoke to a couple of Rabbis, and no one could clearly define the source of it. When I mentioned how Abraham converted his family members and slaves/servants by circumsizing men and doing nothing with women, they (the rabbis) were utterly confused. Indeed those women became Jewish automatically.
Using this logic, the father must be Jewish for a kid to be Jewish.
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Interesting analysis.
I've concluded that both parents need to be Jewish for a kid to be Jewish. The reform movement, by claiming it's only necessary for one parent to be Jewish, is attempting to give people an excuse to intermarry. This is wrong.
RationalThought110:
--- Quote from: jo-bella on May 20, 2007, 09:23:41 PM ---thank you jeff and lisa
I studied this idea also and wondered why the same thing myself. sadly i was a apart of the female generation that was sold a bill of goods for the trade off of ''achievement'' vs ''family values & religion''. And the left wingers who thought places like Israel and Judiasm were no longer relevant or taboo in this so-called modern era. I remember my own mother telling me no one goes to Israel in their right mind when i was in my teens....she alone turned me off to the idea and the entire notion of judaism and basically would make fun of people who were religious. Later on in life, i think she regreted this way of thinking when she saw how misguided some of her children turned out.....my cousin had it much worse than i did in california.
sadly, we lost much along the way of ''women's lib'' and the burning of the bra era during the 1960's, protests, etc., birth control pill, and abortion rights in 1969. The one person who was responsible for the deciding vote in favor of the 1969 ruling in roe v. wade in ny, was roberta krupsak, who was a deciding vote. her vote alone passed the bill for nys.
in response to women not wanting to be so religious anymore during this era, they actually demanded the men stop being so religious also. this created a vicious cycle. women wanted a more secular lifestyle, abandoned and actually made fun of religious men and we began marrying outside to intergrate. this happened all within less than 70 years if you count from the first wave during the 1880's to the usa/canada.....the second wave of immgration was 1900's.
Also this way of thinking was carried from the old country too though, reform judaism began in germany and many germans came to usa/canada and brought with them this way of thinking. a new country, a new way of thinking to cast off anti-semetism.
all it did was substitute money for religion, and left us even more aling for our Hashem. ??? ??? :'(
american/canadians females jews became spoiled and worshiped money for those who abandoned the religious thinking. now we see the fall out as to what is left for conservative, reform, jews. I became a victim of the same thinking until i wondered what it was that i was missing in my life.....sadly for me it is too late because i am too old now and my child bearing years have long since left me. I can however be a living testament to what happens when you choose a secular lifetstyle. you miss out greatly on a joyus relation with our creator......
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Is this liberal group in CA proseltyzing?
http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=17668
You said you have a kid. Are you divorced or did you adopt?
MarZutra:
The Tribe runs through the Father and the Jewishness runs through the Mother. This is Torah and Talmudic teachings which is very clear. When was the Torah given? Who was it given to? Why was it given? Reform is not Judaism at all it was formed by a member of the inner circle of the Jewish Communist: Bund which has the goals of eliminating morality, G-d, nation etc. via "divide and conquer" a Marxian/Sun Tsu (art of war) concept. Thus, Abraham Geiger with the aid of the Oppenhimers, Schiffs, Warbergs and Rothschilds funded this egalitarian Socialist "Reform Judaism". What does Judaism say about Homosexuality? What is Judaism's idea of Nation? What is Judaism's belief in Sinai, Torah, Talmud and G-d? What does Judaism teach about intermarriage? Compare this with all the leftist/socialist/utopian garbage spewed by the "progressive" Reform movement. The intermarriage rate of Reform "Jews" is over 90% while Conservative is about 50%. Orthodox and "Ultra-Orthodox" is under 5%..... just one example...
saintaugusto:
--- Quote from: RationalThought110 on May 22, 2007, 03:27:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: SaintAugusto on May 20, 2007, 05:08:20 PM ---MarZutra, you are saying that Jewishness is determined by mother. I know, this notion prevails in nowadays. I spoke to a couple of Rabbis, and no one could clearly define the source of it. When I mentioned how Abraham converted his family members and slaves/servants by circumsizing men and doing nothing with women, they (the rabbis) were utterly confused. Indeed those women became Jewish automatically.
Using this logic, the father must be Jewish for a kid to be Jewish.
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Interesting analysis.
I've concluded that both parents need to be Jewish for a kid to be Jewish. The reform movement, by claiming it's only necessary for one parent to be Jewish, is attempting to give people an excuse to intermarry. This is wrong.
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I absolutely agree. Both parents need to be Jewsih. But it is also wrong to say that if only the mother is Jewish, that's enough for a kid to be Jewish.
And even providing that both parents are Jewish doesn't guarantee that the kid will be raised as Jewish. And thus a child needs to be raised as Jewish for him/her to be Jewish.
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