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voo-yo:
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--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 09, 2009, 01:26:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: voo-yo on November 09, 2009, 01:09:00 PM ---And that verse from the Bible refers to your brothers in faith, not to your enemies. I have another, better verse for you.
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You are using typical protestant false interpretation of the Bible.
This rule absolutely does not only refer to brothers in faith, it refers to mankind! You my brother are using a wrong interpretation of the Bible, which is not practised by the Orthodox Church.
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The commandments count for all people!
The commandments You shall not kill, you shall not lie!
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--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party ---PS according to your way of thinking I am allow to kill all non-Serbs ? ? ?
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SRP, why do you suppose Vujo says Bible allows to kill the non-Orthodox or lie to them? He only said "THAT VERSE from Bible refers to the brothers in faith", not "ALL the commandments are only for the Orthodox". I am a Jew and I am not going to judge what is right and what is wrong according to Orthodox Bible, but I think common human logic is not condemned by it.
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Of course that verse doesn't have anything to do with killing, it says "don't be a hypocrite". So, you're not suppose to tell your brother that he's a liar or blind, if you're a liar and blind yourself.
But I'm not going to discuss religion with him, because he doesn't know anything about it.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: Spectator on November 10, 2009, 01:55:24 AM ---
SRP, why do you suppose Vujo says Bible allows to kill the non-Orthodox or lie to them? He only said "THAT VERSE from Bible refers to the brothers in faith", not "ALL the commandments are only for the Orthodox". I am a Jew and I am not going to judge what is right and what is wrong according to Orthodox Bible, but I think common human logic is not condemned by it.
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Sorry but your are not being logic at all. You are saying now something to your advantage. We do not need interpretations of outsiders to understand the Bible.
You support Vojoo automatically, because you agree with him on many subjects.
You are not being objective at all, not at all.
If he twists one verse, than he will twist also others to his atvantage.
That is logic.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 10, 2009, 05:50:17 AM ---We do not need interpretations of outsiders to understand the Bible.
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I don't interprent Bible. I question your personal assessment of Vujo. It has nothing to do with Bible.
Actually, you imply that he supports killing the non-Orthodox or lying to them. This is called demonization.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
I was not ascertaining that.
I only asked if he also thinks that other rules also only count for brothers in fait?
I left room for his eventual responce on that.
I did not ascertain anything..
He advocates ethnic cleaning, is not he demonizing his self?
He seems to did that. It seems that you agree with that.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 10, 2009, 06:09:37 AM ---I was not ascertaining that.
I only asked if he also thinks that other rules also only count for brothers in fait?
I left room for his eventual responce on that.
I did not ascertain anything..
He advocates ethnic cleaning, is not he demonizing his self?
He seems to did that. It seems that you agree with that.
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Even if you don't state it directly but write a long emotional post implying that it is true, this is already demonization. Try to understand, incitement to murder is a very serious crime and even an implication to it can make a person look bad in the eyes of the others, no matter what the truth is. This is a known method of western yellow press.
The same is true when you accuse me in supporting ethinic cleansing. Where did I say that I support it? I said that I support expulsion of those who want to destroy my country and murder and/or expel my people. Where did I say that this applies to ALL co-nationals or co-believers of these people? Also Vujo said "In present situation, I would agree to give such muslims a piece of Bosnia as their own state". Is this supporting of ethnic cleansing?
But it seems you want to win the debate at any cost :)
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