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Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: Spectator on November 11, 2009, 04:34:19 AM ---Who were these people? And why did they say so?
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I do not think that these people existed. Vojoo is propably making something up.
I never heard that ridiculous claim before, which Vojoo is claiming !!
This is the first time that I hear something funny like that.
Muslims wo accepted the new Serbian rule were not forced to leave.
Why would Serbs cry for the departure of Turks and others who did not want to recognize the fall of the Turkish colonial Empire?
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 11, 2009, 04:38:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on November 11, 2009, 04:34:19 AM ---Who were these people? And why did they say so?
--- End quote ---
I do not think that these people existed. Vojoo is propably making something up.
I never heard that ridiculous claim before, which Vojoo is claiming !!
This is the first time that I hear something funny like that.
Muslims wo accepted the new Serbian rule were not forced to leave.
Why would Serbs cry for the departure of Turks and others who did not want to recognize the fall of the Turkish colonial Empire?
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I don't think Vujo would make something up, he is a serious person and Serbian patriot. I suppose you and he have different interpretation of the same historical event. Well, I have to go, thank you for explanations :)
Serbian_Radical_Party:
Serbs will agree that libaration of Serbia was achived with ethnic cleansing.
I reject that interpretation of Vojoo. Thats a false interpretation.
voo-yo:
Hello Levi. Another day of educating ignoramuses like SRP, huh?
So I see his latest "brilliant" theory is that they left voluntarily. They couldn't look at Serbs as equals, and they yearned for the splendid architecture of Turkey, so they left. Levi, if you're not laughing, I congratulate you. I would like SRP to explain why haven't then muslims and Albanians left Serbia after the 1912. war.
Well, here is the list of those bleeding hearts:
General Jovan Belimarkovic opposed the deportation and offered his resignation to the government over this issue and
journalist Manojlo Djordjevic also condemned these policies and argued that Serbia should have pursued a policy of peaceful reconciliation towards the Albanians:
In Toplica the Albanians were encountered, and we had nothing more important to do but to expel these warlike, but hard-working people from
their homes. Instead of making a peace with them as the defeated side – they were without any good reason pushed across the border – so that they’ll settle on the other side as the enemies of everything Serbian, to become the avengers towards those who pushed them from their homes.
Despite some voices of dissent, the Serbian regime ‘encouraged’ about 71,000 Muslims, including 49,000 Albanians, ‘to leave’. The regime then gradually settled Serbs and Montenegrins in these territories. Prior to 1878, the Serbs comprised not more than one half of the population of Nis, the largest city in the region; by 1884 the Serbian share rose to 80 per cent. According to Ottoman sources, Serbian forces also destroyed mosques in Leskovac, Prokuplje, and Vranje.
The ‘cleansing’ of Toplica and Kosanica would have long-term negative effects on Serbian-Albanian relations. The Albanians expelled from these regions moved over the new border to Kosovo, where the Ottoman authorities forced the Serb population out of the border region and settled the refugees there. Janjicije Popovic, a Kosovo Serb community leader in the period prior to the Balkan Wars, noted that after the 1876–8 wars, the hatred of the Turks and Albanians towards the Serbs ‘tripled’.A number of Albanian refugees from Toplica region, radicalized by their experience, engaged in retaliatory violence against the Serbian minority in Kosovo.In 1900 Zivojin Peric´, a Belgrade Professor of Law, noted that in retrospect, ‘this unbearable situation probably would not have occurred had the Serbian government allowed Albanians to stay in Serbia’. He also argued that conciliatory treatment towards Albanians in Serbia could have helped the Serbian government to gain the sympathies of Albanians of the Ottoman Empire.
You can also read on the internet about social-democratic traitors like Dimitrije Tucovic, Svetozar Markovic and what they were saying about Serbian-Albanian relations.
voo-yo:
I would also like to add, that our government had a plan of expelling the Albanians from Kosovo to Turkey (see Vaso Cubrilovic), but unfortunately the II Second World War stoped it. For example, our Nobel prize winner, Ivo Andric was also working on that.
The plan was very much like Rav Kahane's plan, with compensation and all that.
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