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voo-yo:
--- Quote ---Some journalists asked Hidayet Turkoglu wheter or not he is a Serb.He replied back and said he is relgiously and with his flesh and bone a Turk.He doesn't accept to be Serb.
Mirsad Turkcan did the same after a match between Serbia-Turkey.He said some of serbian players insulted him during the play and asked him why he plays for the turks while he is serbian,he said he was never serbian to the players.Well obviously it's unreasonable for him to say he is not serb while he could speak and understand the serbian with the players in the match.I dunno how many times should I tell it?
EVEN THERE ARE SOME SERBS IN TURKEY CURRENTLY THEY DON'T SAY THIS .IT IS PROBABLY THEY ARE ASHAMED OF THE WAR İN 1990S AND THE TURKISH MEDIA WHO SHOWED SERBS AS THE EVIL.
I don't have to explain why joined to JTF while It can easily be understood.
--- End quote ---
You summed it up well. Turkoglu and Turkcan are genetically Serbs, but not spiritually, and therefore they cannot be Serbs. That's something SRP refuses to accept.
They are not ashamed of their ancestry because of the wars in the '90s. They haven't been Serbs for the last 400 years.
And if you're not Turkish Jew, I don't understand why you would want to be here, sorry.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
Voojoo
Do not make me upset.
I am tolerant, but do not spread lies about me. Even you must have your limitations.
I already confirmed on this topic that Serbs who abandoned Orthodoxy are not spiritually Serbs, but only genetically.
I will repeat my quote...
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 08, 2009, 07:40:42 AM ---Brother Spectator,
You are now mentioning that from the Jewish perspective.
You understand the Serbs who become Jews are in our eyes genetically Serbs.
The difference between them is that they are spiritually not Serbs, only genetically.
I think that we must not all hate all Serbs who left Orthodoxy.
Many of them were forced to do that. Some of them did it voluntarily but many were forced by the knife to abandon Orthodoxy.
--- End quote ---
voo-yo:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 08, 2009, 09:36:21 AM ---Voojoo
Do not make me angry.
I am tolerant, but do not spread lies about me. Even you must have your limitations.
I already confirmed on this topic that Serbs who abandoned Orthodoxy are not spiritually Serbs, but only genetically.
Spading lies against me, can make me extremely angry!
I will repeat my quote...
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 08, 2009, 07:40:42 AM ---Brother Spectator,
You are now mentioning that from the Jewish perspective.
You understand the Serbs who become Jews are in our eyes genetically Serbs.
The difference between them is that they are spiritually not Serbs, only genetically.
I think that we must not all hate all Serbs who left Orthodoxy.
Many of them were forced to do that. Some of them did it voluntarily but many were forced by the knife to abandon Orthodoxy.
--- End quote ---
--- End quote ---
And I said
--- Quote ---and therefore they cannot be Serbs. That's something SRP refuses to accept.
--- End quote ---
You said they can be Serbs regardless of their religion. Spirit is more important than genes.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
And there fore they can not be Serbs?
This way of thinking contributed to the assimilation of Catholic and Muslim Serbs, who became weapons of the Turkish Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empires - after they finally abandoned the Serbian religion and nation. The Orthodox Serbs did not do everything in order to stop the assimilation of other Serbs.
We did not have a good strategy.
I completely understand that it is not good to accept the religion of your conquerors. I condemn that, but we can at least recognize the fact that these people are genetically Serbs. You are right that Serbs belong in the Orthodox church and that Orthodoxy is the only place for Serbs. I agree, but it is not in the interest of the Serbian nation to assimilate some Serbs in new nations.
Of course Serbs should be genetically and spiritually Serbian, but it is also the responsibility of Orthodox Serbs to prevent the alienation of Catholic and Muslim Serbs from their Orthodox relatives.
If we managed to keep Muslim and Catholic Serbs in the Serbian name, than many of them would be convinced that other powers have forced them to stop being Serbs.
I agree that Orthodoxy is the place where Serbs belong, but I do not agree that Catholic and Muslim Serbs must be banned from the Serbian name.
Jakov:
Make love not war... :-*
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