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Serbs in Turkey
Serbian_Radical_Party:
I personally won't take USSR as an example..
You think that that kind of politic will succeed, I have a different opinion. We will see what the future will bring.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 08, 2009, 01:30:44 PM ---I personally won't take USSR as an example..
You think that that kind of politic will succeed, I have a different opinion. We will see what the future will bring.
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Regardless of our opinions of this historical event, this is not my main point.
The main point is whether you are going to tolerate people who are involved in real or propaganda war against my country, and call the measures against them ethnic cleansing.
Kerber:
For SRS,
You are falling into something that is called "ethno-filetism",putting the ethnic background before everything else.If those Serbs are Muslims and not Biblicallly religious(which affects on practical everyday life and more important on long-term periods meaning on coexisting with non believers),that fact is more important than just Serbian genetic pool that they have.If you are Biblically religious(may be Orthodox),than you should know that G-d look at men not by their ethnicity,but their character,soul,deeds,are they on the side of G-d,the side of life,or not.
Those ideas of "ethno-filetism" are also proposed from the people who are not religious,and dr Seselj is one of them as he is the biggest promoter of "national awakening" for Bosniaks and Crotas.They are good by its character,but in the same time very,very naive and impossible.But,that's the case when man is not Biblically religious,than he can fall into trap that common ethnic background is more important than spiritual.That can be deadly mistake and that mistake is happening to Serbia for almost 20 years,where we have a situation that our country is led by people who also have Serbian ethnicity,but they do not have common "system of values",as they are NOT Biblically religious.So,their Serbianhood you can throw into water...they're bad people.
It's more important what man is by his character/spirit/soul(which religion creates almost completely) than ethnic background and genetic pool from centuries ago.I would rather prefer Biblically religious Bulgarian or Romanian or Jewish man,than islamised Serbs.
And the number of the "official" Serbs in Turkey isn't that high.The number of 9.000.000 is probably accurate enough ,but not for those who remained Serbs.That number counts for those who had Serbian ethnicity,but today they call themselves "Bosnikas" living in Turkey or they accepted Turkish nationality and got assimilated.And by that fact all those of Serbian ethnic background who rejected its ethnic heritage can't be count as "official" Serbs,although we know and we can say what their background is.
So,from that number of 9.000.000 people with Serbian background,maybe there is 1% that count themselves as Serbian.Of course,we can inform other people what their ethnicity is,but that's all we can do and we shouldn't insist that much on their "national awakening" as we could face the fact that large number of Muslim population would like to return to Serbia.
Personally,I would never want something like that to happen...
Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: Kerber on November 09, 2009, 12:59:25 AM ---For SRS,
You are falling into something that is called "ethno-filetism",putting the ethnic background before everything else.If those Serbs are Muslims and not Biblicallly religious(which affects on practical everyday life and more important on long-term periods meaning on coexisting with non believers),that fact is more important than just Serbian genetic pool that they have.If you are Biblically religious(may be Orthodox),than you should know that G-d look at men not by their ethnicity,but their character,soul,deeds,are they on the side of G-d,the side of life,or not.
--- End quote ---
Ethno-filetism? I see we have a scholar type on this forum :)
In your last post you talk about a lot of not relevant things.
Brother, please try to understand this subject.
We are talking about simple facts, about Serbs who were converted into something else. You are thinking to difficult. I never said that ethnicity is more important or equal to spirituality, so please do not give unnecessary lections, which I already know.
I do not understand why you guys are being so difficult? Please think simply and logically. If ex-Serbs become aware of the fact that their ancestors were Orthodox Serbs, than the chance that they may return back to their original roots will increase. If these genetic Serbs of Turkey are aware of their Serbian heritage, than the claim of us, Orthodox Serbs, that Croatians and Bosniaks are assimilated Serbs will make more sense. These people want to support our side and you are naively condemning them. This behavior is against Serbian interests!
With this behavior you will send those Serbs to members of the Bosniak lobby, which is supported by the US and EU.
It surprises me that you people do not understand this.
I see that as soon as you hear the word ''Muslim'' you start to loose your logic.
Your prejudices are making you guys sometimes blind.
You also are not able to separate Bosnian Muslims from other Muslims.
Not every Muslim is a Bosnian Muslims or a Albanian.
You must think about that.
Your prejudices are making you very blind sometimes.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 09, 2009, 02:48:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kerber on November 09, 2009, 12:59:25 AM ---For SRS,
You are falling into something that is called "ethno-filetism",putting the ethnic background before everything else.If those Serbs are Muslims and not Biblicallly religious(which affects on practical everyday life and more important on long-term periods meaning on coexisting with non believers),that fact is more important than just Serbian genetic pool that they have.If you are Biblically religious(may be Orthodox),than you should know that G-d look at men not by their ethnicity,but their character,soul,deeds,are they on the side of G-d,the side of life,or not.
--- End quote ---
Ethno-filetism? I see we have a scholar type on this forum :)
In your last post you talk about a lot of not relevant things.
Brother, please try to understand this subject.
...
Your prejudices are making you very blind sometimes.
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SRP, you accuse people of being "blind", "talking about irrelevant things", "giving unnecessary lessons you already know" ..
You are not free of pejudices and you don't have any authority over anyone here.
Learn to respect your opponents. What is irrelevant to you might be very relevant to the others.
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