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Can you be a righteous Muslim?
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 11, 2009, 06:24:21 AM ---Muhammad is not G-d. He was a false prophet who professed belief in G-d. In a monotheistic G-d, yes.
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I meant the G-d that he promoted, sorry for the lack of clarity. By nature I meant character; yes, the Allah of Islam is monotheistic, but he behaves like a pagan deity.
pennyjangle:
The latest post-Christian theological spectacle comes to us from the Netherlands (of Ayaan Hirsi Ali fame), where the Roman Catholic Bishop of Breda, Tiny Muskens, says he wants Christians to start calling God "Allah" because he believes such a gesture would promote "rapprochement between Christianity and Islam". Appearing on Dutch television, the 71-year-old cleric said:
"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him?"
Inquiring minds want to know: If the bishop really thinks the names "God" and "Allah" are interchangeable, why doesn't he ask Muslims to start calling Allah "Hashem", the biblical name for God? But he won't, because he knows they won't.
Indeed, just because Christianity, Judaism and Islam are called "monotheistic" faiths, it does not follow that Christians, Jews and Muslims pray to the same God. So for those pre-postmoderns who believe that words still mean something, a quick survey of archaeology, history and theology-accompanied by a dose of common sense-can answer the question of whether the Allah of Islam is really the God of the Bible.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Bonesfan on November 11, 2009, 09:51:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 11, 2009, 06:24:21 AM ---Muhammad is not G-d. He was a false prophet who professed belief in G-d. In a monotheistic G-d, yes.
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I meant the G-d that he promoted, sorry for the lack of clarity. By nature I meant character; yes, the Allah of Islam is monotheistic, but he behaves like a pagan deity.
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I was moreso asking for examples to hear how you back up that claim. But by saying "character" you have actually confused me more. I would think you mean more about the God's actions than "traits" so to speak. But anyway, please explain how you determine that he behaves as "pagan" entity in Islam...
pennyjangle:
Muslims claim that in pre-Islamic times, "Allah" was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets and apostles. Indeed, the credibility of Islam as a religion stands or falls on its core claim of historical continuity with Judaism and Christianity. No wonder, then, that many Muslims get uppity when the claims of Islam are subjected to the hard science of archaeology.
Because archaeology provides irrefutable evidence that Allah, far from being the biblical God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, was actually the pre-Islamic pagan moon-god. Indeed, it is an established archaeological fact that worship of the moon-god was the main religion of the ancient Middle East.
But what about the Arabian Peninsula, where Mohammed (570-632) launched Islam? During the last two centuries, prominent archaeologists have unearthed thousands of inscriptions which prove beyond any doubt that the dominant religion of Arabia during Mohammed's day was the cult of the moon-god.
muman613:
--- Quote from: pennyjangle on November 11, 2009, 05:32:51 PM ---Muslims claim that in pre-Islamic times, "Allah" was the biblical G-d of the Patriarchs, prophets and apostles. Indeed, the credibility of Islam as a religion stands or falls on its core claim of historical continuity with Judaism and Christianity. No wonder, then, that many Muslims get uppity when the claims of Islam are subjected to the hard science of archaeology.
Because archaeology provides irrefutable evidence that Allah, far from being the biblical G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, was actually the pre-Islamic pagan moon-G-d. Indeed, it is an established archaeological fact that worship of the moon-G-d was the main religion of the ancient Middle East.
But what about the Arabian Peninsula, where Mohammed (570-632) launched Islam? During the last two centuries, prominent archaeologists have unearthed thousands of inscriptions which prove beyond any doubt that the dominant religion of Arabia during Mohammed's day was the cult of the moon-G-d.
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Can you please provide some links which support your position?
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