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Can you be a righteous Muslim?

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Muck DeFuslims:
It is possible to be born a Muslim and to identify one's self as a Muslim and be a righteous person.

However, it is impossible to strictly observe the tenets of the Koran and actively practice Islam and still be a righteous person.

That is unless you have some very strange ideas about what the Koran says and what it means to be a good or devout Muslim.

So my short answer to your question is; yes, individual Muslims can be righteous -- no, devout practitioners of Islam can not possibly be righteous.

IsraeliGovtAreKapos:
                                                                    בס"ד

Just one thing to add, the Arabic word for G-d is "Illa" (like "Lah Illa Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul'Allah"), not "Allah" (which is Arabization of the Babylonian idol from the Babylonian mythology, "All-at").

Harzel:

--- Quote from: JNA on December 22, 2009, 12:14:49 PM ---                                                                    בס"ד

Just one thing to add, the Arabic word for G-d is "Illa" (like "Lah Illa Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul'Allah"), not "Allah" (which is Arabization of the Babylonian idol from the Babylonian mythology, "All-at").

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I am not sure you are right about this. Even the way you typed the sentence: "Lah Illa Ela Allah ..."
means: "There is no god but the god (al-lah)..."

Shlomo:

--- Quote from: Dr. Brennan Fan on November 10, 2009, 01:30:22 PM ---... and I believe having heard/read that in principle, a Jew could convert to Islam and not be guilty of sin (depending on how literally he or she meant it, of course)
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Shalom Dr. Brennan Fan,

G-d forbid! It would be a grave sin for any Jew to convert to islam and it would be a desecration of G-d's name [and the Jewish people].

If a muslim follows the koran the way it is intended to be followed (i.e. give "infidels" only 2 options for conversion or death, cutting off the clitorises of young 6 year old girls, beating a wife into submission, etc.), then there is no way possible for this individual to be righteous. Islam is a death cult and a violent, barbaric religion.

And if a muslim doesn't really follow his religious belief and only claims to be muslim by name, then he is not following his religious beliefs and would not be considered righteous by other muslims. He would be considered an infidel and islam states that this person should be murdered.

I hope that answers your question.
-Shlomo

muman613:

--- Quote from: Shlomo on December 22, 2009, 05:45:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Brennan Fan on November 10, 2009, 01:30:22 PM ---... and I believe having heard/read that in principle, a Jew could convert to Islam and not be guilty of sin (depending on how literally he or she meant it, of course)
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Shalom Dr. Brennan Fan,

G-d forbid! It would be a grave sin for any Jew to convert to islam and it would be a desecration of G-d's name [and the Jewish people].

If a muslim follows the koran the way it is intended to be followed (i.e. give "infidels" only 2 options for conversion or death, cutting off the clitorises of young 6 year old girls, beating a wife into submission, etc.), then there is no way possible for this individual to be righteous. Islam is a death cult and a violent, barbaric religion.

And if a muslim doesn't really follow his religious belief and only claims to be muslim by name, then he is not following his religious beliefs and would not be considered righteous by other muslims. He would be considered an infidel and islam states that this person should be murdered.

I hope that answers your question.
-Shlomo

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Shalom Shlomo!

Long time no hear.... I hope that things are going well for you. It is good to see that you are still poking around the forum...

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