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Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 12:00:51 AM »
Tea, coffee and sugar would seem about the last thing you would need in wartime.

Great video's. Only little people will know about this.

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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 01:44:16 AM »
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Great work Irish Zionist! G-d bless you and your family!

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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 05:45:35 AM »
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Great work Irish Zionist! G-d bless you and your family!
Your very welcome Chaim. I think this needed to be heard.
The banding together by the nations of the world against Israel is the guarantee that their time of destruction is near and the final redemption of the Jew at hand.
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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 09:07:45 AM »
But here's one thing Chaim didn't mention.
The U.S and Britain were not going to give one truck to the Nazis.
They didn't care one bit that the Nazis were murdering Jews.
The last thing they wanted to do was give the Nazis weapons to save the Jews.
So how could Jews have then saved 1 million Jews?
The bottom line is, Roosevelt and Eisenhower were not going to bomb any death camps or the railways leading to the death camps.
They weren't going to give the Germans any trucks.
You could have had every Jew plead to Roosevelt to bomb the death camps and he wouldn't have done it.
Also remember, Roosevelt's top advisor John J Mccloy totally opposed bombing the death camps.
The Jews were dooomed.  There was no way to save them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._McCloy
Auschwitz bombing debate
During World War II, as Assistant Secretary of War, McCloy was a crucial voice in setting U.S. military priorities. The War Department was petitioned throughout late 1944 to help save Nazi prisoners by ordering the bombing of the railroad lines leading to Auschwitz and the gas chambers in the camp. McCloy responded that only heavy bombers would be able to reach the sites from England, and that those bombers would be too vulnerable and were needed elsewhere. However, only a few months earlier, Allied forces had bombed industrial centers just a few kilometers away from the extermination camp, and would continue to do so, apparently even causing some damage to buildings in Auschwitz, while sustaining very low losses. Indeed, regular US bombing raids from Foggia, Italy to nearby strategic targets routinely crossed right over Auschwitz en route.

On another occasion, when replying to another appeal to bomb the gas chambers, McCloy claimed that the final decision on the selection of bombing targets, including those attacked by American planes, lay with the British alone. This was an incorrect claim. According to Michael Beschloss, in an interview three years before the latter's death (in 1986) with Henry Morgenthau, III, McCloy claimed that the decision not to bomb Auschwitz was President Roosevelt's and that he was merely fronting for him. [5] This appears possible, given Roosevelt's generally unsympathetic response to the Holocaust, but is otherwise unsupported. Further, McCloy also alleged to Morgenthau that Roosevelt refused to approve the Auschwitz rail bombing because he would then be accused of also killing Auschwitz prisoners.






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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 10:27:06 AM »
But here's one thing Chaim didn't mention.
The U.S and Britain were not going to give one truck to the Nazis.
They didn't care one bit that the Nazis were murdering Jews.
The last thing they wanted to do was give the Nazis weapons to save the Jews.
So how could Jews have then saved 1 million Jews?
The bottom line is, Roosevelt and Eisenhower were not going to bomb any death camps or the railways leading to the death camps.
They weren't going to give the Germans any trucks.
You could have had every Jew plead to Roosevelt to bomb the death camps and he wouldn't have done it.
Also remember, Roosevelt's top advisor John J Mccloy totally opposed bombing the death camps.
The Jews were dooomed.  There was no way to save them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._McCloy
Auschwitz bombing debate
During World War II, as Assistant Secretary of War, McCloy was a crucial voice in setting U.S. military priorities. The War Department was petitioned throughout late 1944 to help save Nazi prisoners by ordering the bombing of the railroad lines leading to Auschwitz and the gas chambers in the camp. McCloy responded that only heavy bombers would be able to reach the sites from England, and that those bombers would be too vulnerable and were needed elsewhere. However, only a few months earlier, Allied forces had bombed industrial centers just a few kilometers away from the extermination camp, and would continue to do so, apparently even causing some damage to buildings in Auschwitz, while sustaining very low losses. Indeed, regular US bombing raids from Foggia, Italy to nearby strategic targets routinely crossed right over Auschwitz en route.

On another occasion, when replying to another appeal to bomb the gas chambers, McCloy claimed that the final decision on the selection of bombing targets, including those attacked by American planes, lay with the British alone. This was an incorrect claim. According to Michael Beschloss, in an interview three years before the latter's death (in 1986) with Henry Morgenthau, III, McCloy claimed that the decision not to bomb Auschwitz was President Roosevelt's and that he was merely fronting for him. [5] This appears possible, given Roosevelt's generally unsympathetic response to the Holocaust, but is otherwise unsupported. Further, McCloy also alleged to Morgenthau that Roosevelt refused to approve the Auschwitz rail bombing because he would then be accused of also killing Auschwitz prisoners.







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Why do call yourself "Kahane99" when you write such defeatist nonsense? You are trying to whitewash traitor Jewish leaders who were responsible for the holocaust.

When Peter Bergson, Ben Hecht and other Jabotinsky supporters applied minimal pressure on the Roosevelt administration, the administration and Congress created the War Refugee Board and saved hundreds of thousands of Jews in 1944 and 1945. There is no doubt that if massive public pressure had been applied, the American air force would have destroyed the Nazi death camps and the rail lines leading the Jews to the Nazi death camps, thereby destroying the Nazi mass murder machinery. This would have been a clear signal to the Germans that America and the world were not going to tolerate genocide against the Jews, and that Nazi war criminals would be executed after the war - something which most German officers and senior officials feared at first until they saw that the world doesn't care about slaughtering Jews.

The Germans were willing to just expel the Jews from Europe. When they saw that no one would accept Jewish refugees, they began the extermination process. With massive public pressure, Britain would have opened the doors to the Land of Israel for Jewish refugees.

The holocaust could have been prevented, just as Soviet Jewry was saved by the Jewish Defense League.

By writing that nothing could have been done and it was all hopeless, you are covering up for the Jewish war criminals like Ben Gurion, Weitzman, Kastner and the American Jewish establishment traitors of the United Jewish Appeal, Bnai Brith, the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, Hadassah and the other establishment organizations.

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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 09:01:33 AM »
Chaim, I agree with you about the Jewish traitors you mentioned, especially Kastner.
But here's where your wrong.
You claim pressure on Roosevelt would have had him bomb the death camps.
This is where we disagree.
I read this good article from last June which proves even more that Roosevelt would have never bombed any death camp.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1244035005039&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
Jun. 5, 2009
Rafael Medoff

"A CONCENTRATION CAMP at Dachau was a complete surprise to all of us," recalled Col. Walter J. Fellenz, a commander of the First Battalion,
which was involved in liberating that camp.

Likewise George Oiye, of the 522nd Field Artillery Battalion: "We were not ordered to take Dachau; we just kind of stumbled on to it. I didn't even know it existed."

Staff Sgt. Johnnie Stevens of the 761st Tank Battalion, which helped liberate Gunskirchen, a sub-camp of Mauthausen: "At the time, we did not know those camps existed. Our government lied to us. We were not prepared for what we found."

Army publications were no help. Consider the experience of Sgt. Richard Paul, a reporter for Yank, an army magazine for soldiers. In October 1944 ­- six months before Obama's great-uncle entered Ohrdruf ­Sgt. Paul submitted an article about the mass murder of the Jews in Auschwitz, the editors of Yank turned it down, saying it was "too Semitic." They told him to rewrite
it so that it "did not deal principally with Jews."

The army's other magazine, Stars and Stripes, was no different. It was not until April 1945 that Stars and Stripes finally published articles about
Nazi atrocities and concentration camps, and even then, the articles did not mention Jews. The average GI reading Stars and Strips had no way of knowing that Jews were the main victims of the Nazis.

The line followed by Yank and Stars and Stripes was unfortunately consistent with the approach of the Roosevelt administration as a whole. Calling
attention to the fact that the Jews were being singled out for persecution would have increased pressure on the US government to grant them refuge ­- something President Franklin Roosevelt did not want to do.

The chiefs of the US Office of War Information instructed their staff that coverage of the Nazi mass-murders would be "confused and misleading if it appears to be simply affecting the Jewish people."

A meeting of the American, British, and Soviet foreign ministers in Moscow in October 1943 issued a statement threatening postwar punishment for Nazi war crimes against conquered populations. It mentioned "French, Dutch, Belgian or Norwegian hostages ...Cretan peasants ... the people of Poland"­ but not Jews.

In a similar spirit, General Eisenhower himself removed all references to Jews from a leaflet the Allies air-dropped over Europe in September 1944,
threatening to punish anyone who collaborated in Nazi atrocities against civilians. Even President Roosevelt's 1944 message commemorating the first
anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto revolt -­ a rebellion by Jewish fighters ­- did not mention the Jews.

Arthur Szyk, the famous artist and Holocaust rescue activist, remarked bitterly that Europe's Jews were being "treat[ed] as a pornographical subject ­you cannot discuss it in polite society."

On several recent occasions, President Obama expressed regrets about some past US policies and their impact abroad. Perhaps his visit to Buchenwald, and his memories of what happened to his great-uncle, will inspire the president to say a few words about the Roosevelt administration's appalling policy toward Europe's Jews during the Holocaust­ and about the lessons to be learned, in order to help stop genocide today.


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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 09:03:22 AM »
Chaim, i would also mention, if Roosevelt or Eisenhower were President in 1973, neither of them would have sent that airlift of weapons to Israel that Nixon did.

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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 11:30:02 AM »
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 Most people including myself had no idea about these traitorous Jews that heavily contributed to the death of 6 million Jews.   It's beyond all words.

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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 05:51:23 AM »
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Re: Chaim On "Traitor Leaders Contributed To The Holocaust"
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 10:55:50 AM »


Great work Bryan!!!


I really enjoyed this.


G-d Bless you.

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