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The Reason Why The Holocaust Happened
Sefardic Panther:
We must explain why the Holocaust happened. I felt obligated to make this post after reading the posts of an atheist Jew on this forum who said that reading about the Holocaust distanced him from Judaism. I want people like him to understand that such an attitude will only make things worse for themselves.
The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on November 17, 2009, 10:24:53 PM ---We must explain why the Holocaust happened. I felt obligated to make this post after reading the posts of an atheist Jew on this forum who said that reading about the Holocaust distanced him from Judaism. I want people like him to understand that such an attitude will only make things worse for themselves.
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I understand the reasons, but as a side note, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to truly comprehend anything Hashem does.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on November 17, 2009, 10:28:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on November 17, 2009, 10:24:53 PM ---We must explain why the Holocaust happened. I felt obligated to make this post after reading the posts of an atheist Jew on this forum who said that reading about the Holocaust distanced him from Judaism. I want people like him to understand that such an attitude will only make things worse for themselves.
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I understand the reasons, but as a side note, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to truly comprehend anything Hashem does.
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But the Torah allows us to understand what he is saying to us... I dont think there is any argument about the Tochacha, that it implies that when the Jewish people turn away from Hashem, he will recipricly turn away from the Jewish people, and he will bring us lower and lower , generation after generation until we are nearly destroyed. There is no argument about it.... We recite this in the Shema 3 times a day....
The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: muman613 on November 18, 2009, 12:27:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on November 17, 2009, 10:28:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on November 17, 2009, 10:24:53 PM ---We must explain why the Holocaust happened. I felt obligated to make this post after reading the posts of an atheist Jew on this forum who said that reading about the Holocaust distanced him from Judaism. I want people like him to understand that such an attitude will only make things worse for themselves.
--- End quote ---
I understand the reasons, but as a side note, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to truly comprehend anything Hashem does.
--- End quote ---
But the Torah allows us to understand what he is saying to us... I dont think there is any argument about the Tochacha, that it implies that when the Jewish people turn away from Hashem, he will recipricly turn away from the Jewish people, and he will bring us lower and lower , generation after generation until we are nearly destroyed. There is no argument about it.... We recite this in the Shema 3 times a day....
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The Holocaust may not have been a punishment for that or for anything. Could have been anything.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on November 18, 2009, 10:52:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on November 18, 2009, 12:27:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on November 17, 2009, 10:28:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on November 17, 2009, 10:24:53 PM ---We must explain why the Holocaust happened. I felt obligated to make this post after reading the posts of an atheist Jew on this forum who said that reading about the Holocaust distanced him from Judaism. I want people like him to understand that such an attitude will only make things worse for themselves.
--- End quote ---
I understand the reasons, but as a side note, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to truly comprehend anything Hashem does.
--- End quote ---
But the Torah allows us to understand what he is saying to us... I dont think there is any argument about the Tochacha, that it implies that when the Jewish people turn away from Hashem, he will recipricly turn away from the Jewish people, and he will bring us lower and lower , generation after generation until we are nearly destroyed. There is no argument about it.... We recite this in the Shema 3 times a day....
--- End quote ---
The Holocaust may not have been a punishment for that or for anything. Could have been anything.
--- End quote ---
I agree. At the same time, it is good to take a positive lesson from something even if it wasn't the real "reason" or "explanation" of the thing. At the end of the day, that's all we can do with anything that happens in our lives.
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