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See u
« on: December 30, 2009, 09:05:20 AM »
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So I don't wanna make it to long.. I'm leaving the English forum thank G-D. Hope to see the Jews among you in our Holy Homeland as soon as possible.. wish you good luck. I know all of you or at least the Gentiles among you would be feeling awesome now. See u.

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Re: See u
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 09:06:51 AM »
Are you joking?  :o
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 09:07:40 AM »
Huh?
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 09:11:44 AM »
Ron I don't want you to leave. I enjoy your video's and your help answering my questions. I hope you reconsider.
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Re: See u
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 09:22:56 AM »
well I wont miss you, as we are in touch mostly. But i would like to know the reason for such step.

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Re: See u
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 11:38:32 AM »
Shalom Ron.

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 11:42:40 AM »
shalom v kol tuv
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 12:30:24 PM »
Ron, I feel for shure not "awesome" about it.

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 12:42:22 PM »
Ron, don't go!! 

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 12:47:15 PM »
Is this the same ron ben michael?  If so, I think you are an amazing poster and we all have a lot to learn from your wisdom.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 12:54:15 PM »
Ron, why are you leaving?

למה תלך מן המקום הזה?   זה לא ראוי

It will take a lot away from this forum if you are gone.   Whatever you do I wish you all the best, brother! 


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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 12:55:27 PM »
So, what if a few people annoy you!!  Stick around!!!!

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Re: See u
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 01:56:29 PM »
Maybe this message from Chaim will shed some light:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,41384.msg410819.html#msg410819
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2009, 02:25:16 PM »
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Just to point it out.. I'm not leaving cause of debates (Bio-Electric Apprentice, lick your cowardly white Europen ass and make it quiet if you don't want that Judische so-called untermensch Tavorian rifle to wipe it out, I'm not leaving because of "losing debates" [yeah right, when did I exactly lose a debate EVER?]), but because I see that I lead only to troubles and fights with Chaim, who knows how to get mad at me like yesterday for unjustified reasons. I don't give a ruble on each and every one of the Gentiles here, but I'm tired from fighting with Chaim over this issue while I can use my time for better resulsts on the Hebrew forum, instead of wasting time fighting with losers like Peter and Steven on the English forum.

See u and G-D bless you, KWRBT, Muman, Moshe, Aces High, FreedomFighter, Zelhar and other great people I love and respect.

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2009, 02:32:56 PM »
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Re: See u
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2009, 03:37:31 PM »
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Ron, if we could just avoid the arguments here and our members could see how talented and brilliant and dedicated you are, everyone on the English forum would respect and admire you. Because Ron, you really are a Jewish hero who devotes his entire life to saving Israel.

It hurts me terribly to see you attack Bio-Electric, who is truly a very righteous and wonderful person.

I believe that if the two of you really knew each other, you would be the best of friends.

What bothers me the most is that our English forum members never got to see the real Ron, who is a very kind and magnificent human being.


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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 03:55:47 PM »
Chaim: I was beginning to see glimmers of the real Ron...after all the fighting died down....

בס''ד

Ron, if we could just avoid the arguments here and our members could see how talented and brilliant and dedicated you are, everyone on the English forum would respect and admire you. Because Ron, you really are a Jewish hero who devotes his entire life to saving Israel.

It hurts me terribly to see you attack Bio-Electric, who is truly a very righteous and wonderful person.

I believe that if the two of you really knew each other, you would be the best of friends.

What bothers me the most is that our English forum members never got to see the real Ron, who is a very kind and magnificent human being.


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Re: See u
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2009, 03:59:25 PM »
בס''ד

Ron, if we could just avoid the arguments here and our members could see how talented and brilliant and dedicated you are, everyone on the English forum would respect and admire you. Because Ron, you really are a Jewish hero who devotes his entire life to saving Israel.

It hurts me terribly to see you attack Bio-Electric, who is truly a very righteous and wonderful person.

I believe that if the two of you really knew each other, you would be the best of friends.

What bothers me the most is that our English forum members never got to see the real Ron, who is a very kind and magnificent human being.

Judging only by this thread, Ron comes across as extremely immature and insulting... as bad as some of the most vicious trolls.  I apologize Chaim, but I just can't take your word on this matter, and I think its best that he does leave the English forum.

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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2009, 04:19:22 PM »
בס''ד

Ron, if we could just avoid the arguments here and our members could see how talented and brilliant and dedicated you are, everyone on the English forum would respect and admire you. Because Ron, you really are a Jewish hero who devotes his entire life to saving Israel.

It hurts me terribly to see you attack Bio-Electric, who is truly a very righteous and wonderful person.

I believe that if the two of you really knew each other, you would be the best of friends.

What bothers me the most is that our English forum members never got to see the real Ron, who is a very kind and magnificent human being.

Judging only by this thread, Ron comes across as extremely immature and insulting... as bad as some of the most vicious trolls.  I apologize Chaim, but I just can't take your word on this matter, and I think its best that he does leave the English forum.

בס''ד

I know that's what it looks like, Brian, and that's what is so frustrating to me.

Ron is so brilliant on the Hebrew forum and he helps us so much.

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Re: See u
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »
This is my observation:
Ron is smart, witty and vigilant.  He has lot of the traits to be a great Zionist Jewish leader.  But, there are bad traits Ron must eliminate if he is to avoid ending up getting himself in trouble.  Ron has a real hot temper, is a bit proud and arrogant, somewhat immature and confrontational.   Now, I think he is only 16, so I cannot vouch much for my own behvaior at that age.  He actually reminds me a bit of myself at that age, I was so quick to insult people older than me and act as if I had all the answers and get very defensive if anyone bothered to confront me or ridicule me.  I learned as I got older that I needed to humble myself and be more considerate and respectful of others.  Ron uses vulgar language and even makes juvenile threats of killing members with the Tavor rifle.  ::)  I mean I think what Ron needs is to first, be respectful of elders, which is a Jewish mitzvah, I believe.  Also, he just learn to be more kind, considerate and open-minded in his speech.  I know he is smart, but constantly slapping others and getting in childish name-calling matches beacuse people don't agree with him is nothing less than immature and destructive to the credibility of the JTF. 

I hope no one is offended with me giving my honest observation.  I care for the JTF , Jewish people and even Ron Ben Michael.   I know this kid has got a lot of potential, but he needs a few strokes of the cane.  Jewish people should be polite, kind , considerate and be willing to have intelligent dialogue with people who we agree and disagree with.   Getting in food fights and cursing others I think is about as destructive to this movement and our people as anything can be.   It seems Ron is on a bit of a power trip and needs to calm down and do teshuva.  Ron, I beg you to learn how to be polite and respect others and present your ideas and knowledge in a more constructive and persuasive manner.

Ron, why don't you follow Chaim's example?  Chaim is polite, well-mannered and makes very intelligent arguments and always seeks dialogue rather than confrontations with people.  Muman also is a gentleman and even though i don't agree with him on some subjects, he will present a rational, well constructed and educated argument to backup his statements.  These guys have been around.  I know Chaim has suffered a lot, but he still presents himself as a gentleman and avoids hostility or confrontation.

Ron, you got some things to learn son...  You're a smart guy, but you need something to keep you in line.

My advise for you is to stick around, grow up and calm yourself down.  Don't be ashamed to learn things from others.  I am in my 30s and still have a lot to learn from people.

My 2 cents.
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Re: See u
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2009, 04:58:47 PM »
Thank you DeathToIslam,

I understand what you are saying and I recommend the same introspection and working on better middot {character traits} in order to achieve the goal which we are striving to reach, which is the glorification of Hashem through his Jewish nation.

You are correct that with age comes wisdom, and youth is often misguided because of a great ego {which I too had in my teens and twenties}.

I love all Jews who truly have the quality of loving all of Israel, and also bringing light to the nations.

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Re: See u
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2009, 05:03:30 PM »
I don't give a ruble on each and every one of the Gentiles here,

Nice to know how you feel. At least you are honest about it.

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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2009, 05:31:14 PM »
בס''ד

Ron, if we could just avoid the arguments here and our members could see how talented and brilliant and dedicated you are, everyone on the English forum would respect and admire you. Because Ron, you really are a Jewish hero who devotes his entire life to saving Israel.

It hurts me terribly to see you attack Bio-Electric, who is truly a very righteous and wonderful person.

I believe that if the two of you really knew each other, you would be the best of friends.

What bothers me the most is that our English forum members never got to see the real Ron, who is a very kind and magnificent human being.

Judging only by this thread, Ron comes across as extremely immature and insulting... as bad as some of the most vicious trolls.  I apologize Chaim, but I just can't take your word on this matter, and I think its best that he does leave the English forum.


I am afraid I have to agree with briann on this as much as it pains me to do so considering how much I admire Ron as a Jewish hero. Ron's enormous and incredibly heroic contributions to the Hebrew forum and his spectacular efforts for the movement in Israel as a whole is incomparable.

Ron's attacks on hard working Righteous Gentiles like MasterWolf [who obviously is not on the forum very much anymore] and Robert [Bio-electric Apprentice] are completely unacceptable. Ron, even if you feel you were insulted and attacked first it still does not make you look good to say such terrible things. Calling our very hard working Righteous Gentile friend Robert a "disgusting retarded (National) Socialist piece of filth" and referring to his mother as "enslaved" is simply beyond the pale - even if your feelings were hurt or if you feel Robert insulted you first.

And what on earth do you think our Righteous Gentile friends - especially someone like RCH - who truly is an angel and a saint, would think of your comment: "I don't give a ruble on each and every one of the Gentiles here"?? You think she doesn't read comments such as this?

I understand you are only 16 years of age but that is no excuse: Chaim has pleaded with you over and over again to PLEASE stop insulting and fighting with the JTF'ers here - all to no avail. Chaim should NOT be apologizing on your behalf all the time as it is extremely embarassing for him to do so repeatedly. If you truly honored Chaim - as a son would his father or as you should a great leader like Chaim undoubtedly is -  then you would have obeyed his instructions.

I think it is for the best that you have decided to leave - since you yourself have admitted in your post that you cannot help fighting with people here - and instead concentrate your great, heroic and tremendous efforts as a true Jewish hero for our great movement on the Hebrew forum.





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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2009, 05:42:51 PM »
True JEwish heroes are also kind , loving and respectful people.  Intelligence and strength are not the only qualities of a TRUE JEWISH HERO.   Let Ron fine tune his behavior and he will become a real Jewish hero. 

Personally, I think the greatest hero doesn't view himself as a hero, but rather loves Hashem and wants to do what Hashem teaches him.   I am just a lowly man trying to help my people and stay pure in a world full of deceit and debauchery.

Maybe some will think I am bit crazy for saying this, but to me, a king who will conquer a kingdom with his might, yet treats his subjects with contempt or disdain, is no hero.  King David was a man of power, intelligence, but also he had ahavah (love), which is a great mitzvah.  King David was also humble, despite his great glory.   Humbleness is a most important virtue as spoken in the Ketuvim.
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2009, 06:07:00 PM »

I don't know what the deal is with Ron, he seems to go out of his way to offend people with uncalled for nasty comments. He asked me "Are you even Jewish?" Where the hell does he get off and who the hell does he think he is to be asking people questions like that, and in a nasty way like that.

On this board it's been like this, Post a comment -> Get attacked by Ron. As far as I'm concerned good riddance.
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