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crnitrn:

--- Quote from: Kerber on November 14, 2010, 10:33:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: Novakovic on November 14, 2010, 09:04:49 AM ---Ja samo kazem da nije moralno usporediti Patrijarha sa zivotinjom.
Ja ne branim njegov stan o ekumenizmu i tako dalje. Ja imam pravo da kazem da se ne slazem da neko patrijarha naziva dzukelom.

A cundo je da osoba koja smatra patrijarha za pseto ovdje drzi neke lekcije o postenju, moralu i vjeri. Pa ne moze to tako.

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Patrijarh Irinej nije zivotinja.Daleko od toga.
On i Atanasije Jevtic su masoni.To znaju svi u crkvenoj hijerarhiji.

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jeftic znam da je mason! Ovaj je jezuta mason ali sigurno u nekom tajnom drustvu!

Novakovic:

--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 14, 2010, 11:47:17 AM ---You say that I am a heretic, yet all you do on this forum is spew insults and foul language. Where is your Christianity now?

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I said that I do not go often to the church and I am not a great Orthodox believer.
I am just a moderated believer. But I known basic information, so not everybody can sell everything to me.

Sox7:

--- Quote from: Kerber on November 14, 2010, 10:33:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: Novakovic on November 14, 2010, 09:04:49 AM ---Ja samo kazem da nije moralno usporediti Patrijarha sa zivotinjom.
Ja ne branim njegov stan o ekumenizmu i tako dalje. Ja imam pravo da kazem da se ne slazem da neko patrijarha naziva dzukelom.

A cundo je da osoba koja smatra patrijarha za pseto ovdje drzi neke lekcije o postenju, moralu i vjeri. Pa ne moze to tako.

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Patrijarh Irinej nije zivotinja.Daleko od toga.
On i Atanasije Jevtic su masoni.To znaju svi u crkvenoj hijerarhiji.

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Thank you for this information. It does not surprise me. I thought Atanasije Jevtic was not so bad when I saw him speak at a program on Jadovno, but he was trying to make a distinction between the Croatian Catholic church and other Catholic churches (e.g. Italian, French, etc.). That alarmed me because it seems to deny the Pope's hand in all of the so-called Catholic church.

As for Irinej, how involved in his selection do you think Tadic & Co. were?

It seems that everything is lining up. In Russia, Alexei dies and is replaced by ecumenist Kirill. Then there's Irinej. Bartholomew in Tsarigrad is also a rabid ecumenist. I think we will see some sort of schism in our lifetimes.

Sox7:

--- Quote from: Novakovic on November 14, 2010, 11:52:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 14, 2010, 11:47:17 AM ---You say that I am a heretic, yet all you do on this forum is spew insults and foul language. Where is your Christianity now?

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I said that I do not go often to the church and I am not a great Orthodox believer.
I am just a moderated believer. But I known basic information, so not everybody can sell everything to me.


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You don't know much about Christianity at any rate. You cannot be "moderate." Christianity is an all-consuming thing. You must place Christ above all other things: self, family, nation, country, career, entertainment, interests etc. and follow him. That is something rare in both the Orthodox and Protestant churches.

And you know, I hope, that you cannot "earn" your salvation.

Novakovic:

--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 14, 2010, 11:44:50 AM ---But I am saying that Orthodoxy has gone way off and needs a lot of reform.

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That is what you have in common with the Vatican. Both of you want to reform/ change the Orthodoxy. I do not see any difference between the Vatican's attempt and your attempt. If this is your real intention, agenda, then you are conducting a crime against the Serbs.  

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