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Offline Nic Brookes

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In my church this morning...
« on: April 29, 2007, 08:38:06 AM »
... we were asked to pray for Palesti.nian Christians who are in a struggle at the moment. It was mentioned that Pales.tinians have been christians for 2000 years, and how they are fighting against "evil". Clearly the palestinians were being referred to, muslim scum

What does everyone think of this?

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 08:54:16 AM »
YOU GO TO EITHER A CATHOLIC CHURCH OR A VERY MAINLINE CHRISTIAN CHURCH,MAYBE ANGLICAN
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 09:04:00 AM »
I'm not quite sure what your trying to say, was it being inferred that palest.ians are fighting the muslims that live amoung them, or that israel is oppressing the palestians?

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 09:05:34 AM »
... we were asked to pray for Palesti.nian Christians who are in a struggle at the moment. It was mentioned that Pales.tinians have been christians for 2000 years, and how they are fighting against "evil". Clearly the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis were being referred to, muslim scum

What does everyone think of this?

I would imagine that there are at least a few real Christians in every group of people and those should always be prayed for. But, if there was clearly some misrepresentation of terrorists as christians that's a different story. Yes, the Bible says you should also pray for your enemies, but that would be a different type of prayer. G-d looks at your heart, not the amount of knowledge you have. I supported financially a Christian church in Europe while I lived there that in retrospect I shouldn't have, it was really a cult. But at the time I was misinformed. G-d still blessed me abundantly because he knew what my motives were.

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 09:09:22 AM »
THE PALESTINIANS WEREN'NT CHRISTIANS FOR 2000 YRS ,BECAUSE WHEN CHRISTIANITY BEGAN THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS Judeans and some Israelites
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 09:15:35 AM »
... we were asked to pray for Palesti.nian Christians who are in a struggle at the moment. It was mentioned that Pales.tinians have been christians for 2000 years, and how they are fighting against "evil". Clearly the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis were being referred to, muslim scum

What does everyone think of this?

You do realize that the Fakestinian Christians are immigrants who showed up far after Yeshu? Because the Arab-Muslim invaders of the eight century killed almost everyone who was in the area when they arrived.
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 09:18:08 AM »
Thats correct
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 09:27:53 AM »
I'm sorry, but what is Yeshu? :-X


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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 09:29:00 AM »
I'm sorry, but what is Yeshu? :-X


Jesus's Hebrew name although it's really Yehoshua
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 09:32:49 AM »
I'm not quite sure what your trying to say, was it being inferred that palest.ians are fighting the muslims that live amoung them, or that israel is oppressing the palestians?

palest.ians are fighting the muslims that live among them. they are being brave.

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 09:35:26 AM »
I'm not quite sure what your trying to say, was it being inferred that palest.ians are fighting the muslims that live amoung them, or that israel is oppressing the palestians?

palest.ians are fighting the muslims that live among them. they are being brave.
Oh thats good so you don'nt go to a mainline church http://www.cufi.org/
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 09:53:59 AM »
I'm sorry, but what is Yeshu? :-X


Jesus's Hebrew name although it's really Yehoshua
Yehoshua? I'm pretty sure it's Yeshua, Yehoshua romanised to Jesus would just make no sense at all, Yeshua on the other hand makes perfect sense.

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 09:59:27 AM »

 

Jesus is Yeshu ("ישו"), in Hebrew, but that is in fact a shortening for "Yehoshu'a", written "יהושוע".

 
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 10:03:56 AM »
The first ever Christian Bibles translated into English referred to him as 'Jesu'.
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2007, 10:08:48 AM »
Transalated from greek.greeks don'nt know Heb
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 10:10:48 AM »
Transalated from greek.greeks don'nt know Heb
Yes but some Greek scholars may have learnt it.

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 10:19:08 AM »
Transalated from greek.greeks don'nt know Heb
Yes but some Greek scholars may have learnt it.

yes but there is no such Heb name as jesu
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 10:22:23 AM »
Maybe the greeks wrote it like so and pronounced it as Yeshu....

WTH lol its still Jesus. :D

But it is a concern when wording is altered because the meaning could be slightly changed as well. One thing leads to another...

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 02:24:26 PM »
I'm telling you that his Hebrew name was "Yassis" like "Yassis Alayich Elohkayich Kimsos Chasan Al Kalah".  Then it would make sense why the greeks pronounced it the way they did.  There is no J in hebrew. 
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 02:43:59 PM »
I'm sorry, but what is Yeshu? :-X


Jesus's Hebrew name although it's really Yehoshua

According to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Mord is correct, the Greek word was translated from Jehoshua or Yehoshua.

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 03:30:35 PM »
Yehoshua in Heb. means G-D'S salvation
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 03:36:14 PM »
Yehoshua in Heb. means G-D'S salvation


Doesn't it mean "He will save."?

Yeshua simply means Salvation. The hey added makes it future. But the Y and H could be from YKVK.


I don'nt know my cousins name is Yehoshua i always thought it meant G-D'S salvation i'll ask my cousin
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 03:41:07 PM »
This discussion about the orriginal name of Jesus has become quite drawn out considering that this is a jewish forum...

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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 04:24:08 PM »
Enough already.  Who really cares?
"Enough weeping and wailing; and the following of leaders & rabbis who are pygmies of little faith & less understanding."
"I believe very much in a nation beating their swords into plowshears but when my enemy has a sword I don't want a plowshear"
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Re: In my church this morning...
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 06:35:31 PM »
Well MUSLIMS WILL BE MUSLIMS