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What does Islam say about sex
« on: April 29, 2007, 11:44:09 AM »
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You guys are so nerdy about such discussions, especially those of you that are from other cultures.... sex is not a bad word.... we all have done it or will do it.  No reason we cant discuss it openly on a forum.  I mean, we are not one on one in person, male and female, talking sex...  we are on a faceless, impersonal and open forum. You honestly think that by talking about sex that ill be tempted to jump one of the sisters?  Or maybe you all are too uncomfortable with your sexuality that you think you might cyber someone here???

There is no reason that there should be a brothers only or sisters only section... we should learn from each other.... and men especially have a serious handicap with regards to a womans viewpoint on such issues. and we all need to know the boundaries for sexual relations between the genders.

Im not saying to allow porn text but an eductional discourse on Islams view of sex is vital.... infact Allah, the Prophet and the Companions in the Qur'an and hadith talk very openly about sex.... or are you all not reading Quran or Hadith?

now I can hear you saying...well brother... they talked about it among the men and the men talked to their wives.... but Aisha narrated many hadith about sex and sexual issues to the companions after the Prophets death.  That doesnt mean that since they talked about it that they were tempted to sex each other up...Aisha educated the Companions after the Prophets death on the Prophets Sunnah on sex.  Today, Sheikhs, who for some odd reeason are mostly men now, educate men and women on sex.... whats the fuss?

Sex is good if we engage in it within Islamic boundaries..... lets discuss those boundaries.... Ill start....  here is a fatwah:

Title of Fatwa Islamic Ruling on Anal Sex   
Date of Fatwa  24/ January/ 2004   
Date of Reply 24/ January/ 2004   
Topic Of Fatwa  Sexual Relations   
Question of Fatwa As-Salamu `alaykum! What does Islam say about anal sex? What are the consequences of having anal sex on the marriage? Jazakum Allah khyran.
   
Name of Mufti A Group of Islamic Researchers   
Content of Reply Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.


In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.



All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, thanks a lot for your question and concern about your religion and Allah’s Legislation even in what concerns your sexual life with your wife.

Almighty Allah says in the Qur'an: "Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allah to bestow upon you pious offspring) for your own selves beforehand. And fear Allah, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad)." (Al-Baqarah: 223)

In the foregoing verse the word harth (tilth) indicates that only vaginal sex is permissible in Islam, because it is from this place children are produced. The semen lodged in the womb from which offspring comes is likened to the seeds that are planted in the ground, bringing vegetation. Both of them are substances from which something else is produced.

All Muslim jurists agree that anal sex is haram (prohibited), based on the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): "Do not have anal sex with women." (Reported by Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi, An-Nasa'i, and Ibn Majah.)

Khuzaymah Ibn Thabit (may Allah be pleased with him) also reported that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Allah is not too shy to tell you the truth: Do not have sex with your wives in the anus." (Reported by Ahmad, 5/213.)

Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated: "The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Allah will not look at a man who has anal sex with his wife." (Reported by Ibn Abi Shaybah, 3/529, and At-Tirmidhi classified it as an authentic hadith, 1165)

Further, it is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) referred to such an act as "minor sodomy". (Reported by Ahmad and An-Nasa'i)

However, it is allowed to caress the wife and stimulate her around the anus, :o :o without having sex in this area. It is reported that `Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (ay Allah be pleased with him) came one day to the Prophet and said, "O Messenger of Allah, I am ruined!" "What has ruined you?" asked the Prophet. He replied, "Last night I turned my wife over," meaning that he had had vaginal intercourse with her from the back. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not say anything to him until the verse cited above was revealed. Then he told him, "[Make love with your wife] from the front or the back, but avoid the anus and intercourse during menstruation." (Reported by Ahmad and At-Tirmidhi)
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If one does have anal sex with his wife, he has committed a grave sin, which requires repentance. He should regret and feel contrite for committing such a sin. Allah Almighty destroyed a whole nation who were accustomed to this evil habit.

But, the wife is not considered divorced as many people think, because there is no evidence to support this view. However, scholars maintain that if a man habitually does this or insists on having anal sex with his wife, she has the right to ask for a divorce, because he is considered an evildoer who is causing harm by his action, and also because the purpose of marriage cannot be achieved through this action.

The wife has to resist this evil action and refuse to respond to her husband's desire to have anal sex. She should remind him of Allah as well as the punishment of those who transgress the Bounds set by Him, Most
 
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hF atwaID=28770

 

 
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Re: What does Islam say about sex
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 04:05:40 PM »
To be honest I think it's a rather lacking account.

Surah 2  Ayat 223 Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

When or how the man wills, the woman is not allowed to make any of the decisions.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 05:52:22 PM »
To be honest I think it's a rather lacking account.

Surah 2  Ayat 223 Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

When or how the man wills, the woman is not allowed to make any of the decisions.
True but thats from an islamic forum i posted and they know infidels might be watching so they water it down
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Re: What does Islam say about sex
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 01:40:04 AM »
Look an islamic lego game that tells us the story:

"Enough weeping and wailing; and the following of leaders & rabbis who are pygmies of little faith & less understanding."
"I believe very much in a nation beating their swords into plowshears but when my enemy has a sword I don't want a plowshear"
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 01:54:54 AM »
I bet that lego mohammad character (melted lego be upon him) looks like Fruit and that's why he can't get the girls to go out with him.   ;D
"Enough weeping and wailing; and the following of leaders & rabbis who are pygmies of little faith & less understanding."
"I believe very much in a nation beating their swords into plowshears but when my enemy has a sword I don't want a plowshear"
-Rabbi Meir Kahane Zs'l HYD

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 04:59:07 AM »
 ;D  That is a Lego picture from a website than someone did, attempting to parody stories from the Bible*.

I used to love Lego as a child.

(* If the link is not appropriate please delete):

http://www.thebricktestament.com/
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 05:03:50 AM »
Every white woman deserves the black man of her dreams.  But what does every white man deserve?

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 06:01:48 AM »
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2007, 06:14:12 PM »
The site intends to be a new way of looking at the bible, but is really an attempt to defame the word of God.

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2007, 06:15:24 PM »
Actually much of it is about Jesus, which has nothing to do with G-d as such.  Much of it is a parody of the American fundamentalists who believe that the 613 Commandments of their 'Tanach' applies to everyday Americans living in the USA.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 06:18:08 PM »
As a christian I will repectively disagree with your statement that Jesus has nothing to do with God.

If you look at it though, it is not just Jesus that it defames.

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2007, 06:20:55 PM »
You can delete my posts and links if you wish.  I just wanted to show where the 'Muhammad' image originally came from.  Any divine punishment is on the head of the guy who made the website, not on people who see it.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2007, 06:23:01 PM »
I have no intention of deleting it, if we can't face petty defamation like that, we have no chance in the real world.

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2007, 06:26:32 PM »
we have no chance in the real world.



Well you aren't the only one.  Welcome to the club :)
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 06:35:44 PM »
we have no chance in the real world.



Well you aren't the only one.  Welcome to the club :)


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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2007, 06:44:13 PM »
Nice one FOTL, you made me laugh.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2007, 07:46:25 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2007, 08:19:12 PM »
Article by Zulfikar Khan!

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html

The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM
In this article I shall describe the Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Prophet Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hedious crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth.

To prove my point I have taken verses from the Koran and quotes from the Hadiths.

VIRGINS (HOURIS)

Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..

In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.

Quote from Hadiths

Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."



YOUNG BOYS

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.



As mentioned in my previous article, famous poets in Arabia glorified homosexuality. As an example I am including a poem in 'Perfumed Garden' by Abu Nuwas:
O the joy of sodomy!
So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it--
therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate.
A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils


Need I say anything more after this colorful rendition by Abu Nuwas ?

WATER

One of the major problems in the desert of Arabia was shortage of pure water. Mohammed knew very well that to the Arabians, fresh water was an item of luxury. So promising them abundant pure water, river, fountains and springs in paradise would defintely lure them to murder, loot and plunder people of other religions in this life.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 13:35
This is the paradise which the righteous have been promised: it is watered by running streams..

Koran 3:198
As for those that fear their Lord, theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams in which they will abide for ever, and a goodly welcome from God...

Koran 3:136
...These shall be rewarded with forgiveness from their Lord and with gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell forever. Blessed is the reward of those who do good works..

Koran 15:45
The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear flowing water)

Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams..

Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable Of the Garden which the righteneous are promised: In it are rivers of water incorruptible;

Koran 55:50-51
In them each will be two springs flowing free; Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 55:66-67
In them will be Two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance:Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 44:51-55
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains...

Koran 56:7-40
...They shall recline on couches raised on high in the shade of thornless Lote trees and talhs; amidst gushing water...

Isaiah 62:1 -  For Zion's sake I am not silent, And for Jerusalem's sake I do not rest, Till her righteousness go out as brightness, And her salvation, as a torch that burns.

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Re: What does Islam say about sex
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2007, 08:58:49 PM »
Article by Zulfikar Khan!

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html

The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM

That's a great post. I wonder if David Ben Moshe could use some of these quotes on the show?

One things for sure... with the discusting and insane koran, he won't run out of quotes!
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