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What parts of Kabalah are off limits until age 40?
Moshe92:
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--- Quote from: ~Hanna~ on February 01, 2010, 10:17:28 PM ---I almost bought a book on Kaballah at Border's bookstore once, it had alot of pages but looked very interesting to read.
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DO NOT!!!! I REPEAT!!!DO NOTBUY KABBALAH BOOKS AT BORDERS!!!!
One time I was foolish enough to do so.... What I ended up with was a hodgepodge of Enlightened ideas about Kabbalah mixed in with pagan worship from the nations.... It was HORRIBLE
>:(
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You're right. Most of those books are more like the Britney Spears "kaballah."
~Hanna~:
Ok, sorry.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I said I almost did, but I did not.
you made me cry.
--- Quote from: muman613 on February 01, 2010, 11:22:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: ~Hanna~ on February 01, 2010, 10:17:28 PM ---I almost bought a book on Kaballah at Border's bookstore once, it had alot of pages but looked very interesting to read.
--- End quote ---
DO NOT!!!! I REPEAT!!!DO NOTBUY KABBALAH BOOKS AT BORDERS!!!!
One time I was foolish enough to do so.... What I ended up with was a hodgepodge of Enlightened ideas about Kabbalah mixed in with pagan worship from the nations.... It was HORRIBLE
>:(
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~Hanna~:
:(
Ulli:
--- Quote from: rhayat1 on January 27, 2010, 06:59:49 AM ---When the "Kabbalah" was first introduced to Ashkenazic Jewish society, in the late middle ages, some leading rabbis suspected something was foul. They couldn't come out against it because it had already gained some credibility in Sephardic circles and it would cause a rift. So, in an effort to protect the population from heretical ideas contained in the Kabbalah, they came up with the "under 40" rule - knowing full well that this would prevent most Jews from ever studying it (many died before that age anyway) and, once they did study it, the basic tenets of the Jewish faith would already be ensconced in their minds, making them resistant to the foreign concepts contained in books such as the Zohar.
Soon I'll post what I found out about the book "Sefer haRazim" - later reincarnated as "Raziel haMalakh". In a nutshell, this book is full of idolatry, prayers to Greek, Egyptian and Roman gods and descriptions of sacrifices that should be made to them. But it was written in Hebrew. The Rambam came out against the book and forced it underground. Shortly thereafter, the book "Raziel haMalakh" came out. It was not as blatantly heathen as haRazim, but it still contained a prayer to the sun and makes frequent mention of Aphrodite. Raziel haMalakh is mentioned three times in the Zohar (in a favorable context) and it is still used today as a charm against fire and to protect the newborn.
When my son was born in Israel, my (then) wife place a copy of Raziel next to him. I took it out and defaced it. She found out and confronted me in front of a prominent rabbi. The rabbi demanded why I would do such a thing. I showed him the things that are written in it and he, being a well-educated American (a disciple of the late Moshe Feinstein), recognized it for what it was. He purged the abomination from his own home and admitted I had won this battle.
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Jews are so smart. I like the idea with the 40 year rule. So it is not banned and open for discussion, but only by people who are able to put the ideas in it in the right category.
:) :) :)
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: ~Hanna~ on February 03, 2010, 02:06:26 AM ---
you made me cry.
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I don't think he meant it like that. He was just trying to help you so that you don't get misled by distorted ideas. He was urging you to be cautious about this; he was not saying you did anything wrong. I think you may have misinterpreted what he meant.
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