Author Topic: Satmar Chassidim convince Jews to stay in Yemen despite danger of rape and murde  (Read 1406 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline mord

  • Global Moderator
  • Platinum JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25853
I wish all the satmars would have to live under al qaeda wiyh their wifes and daughters


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135246 








Jews Remain in Eye of Al-Qaeda Storm
 
by Hillel Fendel
Follow Israel news on Twitter and Facebook.

(IsraelNN.com) Attention in the war against int’l terrorism and Al-Qaeda is once again drawn to Yemen, the Arabian peninsula country where perhaps 300 Jews still remain.

Yemen’s ties with Al-Qaeda were highlighted last week when it was revealed that the would-be bomber of the Detroit-bound airliner on Friday, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, had visited Yemen over the past few months. Al-Qaeda’s network in Yemen has not only taken credit for the attempted attack, but it also released original photographs of Abdulmutallab grinning in front of an Al-Qaeda banner, and promised to "continue on this path until we achieve success.”

Furthermore, the Yemeni-based Al-Qaeda statement congratulated Ft. Hood mass-murderer Maj. Malik Nidal Hasan for killing 13 Americans and urged fellow Muslims to follow in his footsteps and kill American soldiers.

Yemenite connections with Al-Qaeda go back to the fact that Osama Bin-Laden’s father lived there. The country was the site of the launching of Al Qaeda’s jihad against the U.S. in 1992 when a hotel in Aden used by U.S. troops was bombed. Eight years later, the suicide bombing of the USS Cole off Aden killed 17 American sailors.

In addition, the year-old Yemen-based “Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula” is led by a former Yemeni Bin-Laden aide named Naser Abdel Karim Al-Wahishi. Leader Al-Wahishi was among 23 Al-Qaeda terrorists who escaped from a Yemeni prison in 2006, and is one of many terrorists currently in Yemen who are on Saudi Arabia's most wanted list.

The Yemenite terror band has been blamed for a series of recent attacks in Yemen, and has issued calls to get the ''infidels'' out of the Arabian peninsula.

Jews in Yemen: Largely Staying Put
This past year, close to 50 Jews made Aliyah to Israel from Yemen – but approximately 300 still remain. The ancient Yemenite Jewish community, going back more than 2,500 years, was almost completely translocated to Israel during Israel’s Operation Magic Carpet in the late 1940’s; tens of thousands of Yemenite Jews were brought to Israel at that time.
Now, again, free flights are being arranged by U.S. sources, including the Department of State, to extricate the remaining Jews. However, the response has not been overwhelming – despite the murder a year ago of a Hebrew teacher in the small town of Raydah. The victim, a father of nine, was killed by a Muslim Yemenite who demanded that he convert to Islam.  The Jews of the town had previously complained about Islamic against them, but the government paid little heed. The victim, like many of his Jewish neighbors, had ties with the Satmar Hassidic community in New York, which discourages them from moving to Israel.


Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
Shot at 2010-01-03

Offline mord

  • Global Moderator
  • Platinum JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25853
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=11754&pageid=89&pagename=Features 
















Religious Freedom
   Back to Features
The Secret Rescue Flight of Yemen's Jews to Freedom
Gregg Rickman   November 2nd 2009
Cutting Edge contributor

Jewish Topics - Yemeni Jews

In November 2007, Ninwe Al Naeti, a  young Yemenite Jewish woman was allegedly kidnapped and converted to Islam against her will in Yemen, home to the oldest Jewish community in the world. As the U.S. Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, it was my obligation to discover more about this incident and whether it was isolated or part of a larger pattern of harassment and anti-Semitism in Yemen.

After initial investigation and fact finding, I traveled to Saana, Yemen’s capital, in December to examine the situation first hand. What I discovered there was a country beset with strife. A fundamentalist rebellion in the north has been launched by the Al-Houti Shiite. They had nailed a note on the door of a Jewish family in Saada in February 2007, threatening them if they did not leave within days. I also found a government, steeped in ancient tribal structure and boundaries, not fully in control of its own territory.

When I asked to visit the main Jewish community in the northern town of Raida, I was told that the government could not guarantee our safety and therefore, even with government troops, we could not venture up that far into the country. We lacked any tribal permission to enter certain areas. We eventually did travel to the provincial capital of Amran province, accompanied by troops driving a gun-mounted jeep.

On that trip, I was struck by the vastly undeveloped, primitive nature of the country. We saw field upon field of khat, the native-grown hallucinogenic drug that is chewed and sucked on as a wad of leaves in the cheek by many Yemenites. The fields found abundantly in Yemen, are guarded by young men with guns who are holed up in small towers in the fields. The khat fields consume much of Yemen’s diminishing water supply.

When I arrived at the Governor’s office, I was greeted by dozens of armed men waiting to escort me up to the Provincial Governor’s office. The Governor was a firm and imposing man who offered me tea and assured me that “his Jews” were safe in Yemen and that despite what I had heard, Ninwe Al-Naeti had chosen to marry the man of her dreams and that there should be no worries. He did complain about the outside support the Jews received from the United States but that as long as they remained good Yemenite citizens, meaning not offering support for Israel, all would be well for them.

Upon my return to Saana, I met with the Jewish community from Saada that had been housed in the capital, at government expense, a deed that both our Ambassador and I had urgently sought following the Al-Houti threats in February of that year. What I heard were stories of extreme harassment: forced conversions of boys and girls, forced marriages, ethnic intimidation, and cruel unequal treatment. These people were scared and told us so. When I was given a list of over 200 names of people who would leave if they could come to the United States, I knew that something had to be done. The stories, the conditions they were living in and the security situation told me that their time was running out.

When I conveyed these concerns to Yemenite government officials they expressed understanding and assured me that they would do all that they could to protect “their Jews,” a common theme heard there. There was in fact, concern for this community by the government and they did try to do what they could and spent some resources protecting these citizens, a point that cannot be argued. Nevertheless, when I complained about the allegations of forced conversions and marriages, I was quite blithely told that Muslims “don’t mind conversions.” That statement told me that they took the threats not quite as seriously as they should have. This was enough for me.

Upon my return to the U.S., I reported on my trip and what happened. I immediately expressed my opinion that these people need to get out and we need to find a way to accomplish that. Soon the Embassy staff, which had been with me in Yemen and saw every day what was occurring there, agreed and helped facilitate a quiet program by which the Jews of Yemen could leave for the United States if they so desired.

As the Wall Street Journal article of October 31, 2009 detailed, events of the summer of 2008, including the bombing attacks against the U.S. Embassy and the brutal killing of Moshe Nahari in the market on December 11, 2008 by a crazed gunman, made clear to all that the Jews of Yemen were not safe and that the time had arrived for them to leave. The Embassy plan was put into action and by summer 2009, following my departure from the State Department with the change of administrations, some 60 Yemenite Jews had traveled to New York and an untold number more to Israel.

For those Yemenite Jews that remain, I continue to fear for their lives. For a variety of reasons, they remain in Yemen, clinging to a measure of familiarity and tradition, hoping against hope that they will not fall prey to the strife that so afflicts Yemen. I hope that one day soon they too will join their brethren outside of Yemen, where they will be safe from intimidation and attacks like they faced in their ancient homeland.

Cutting Edge contributor Gregg J. Rickman, served as the first U.S. Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism from 2006-2009. He is a Senior Fellow for the Study and Combat of Anti-Semitism at the Institute on Religion and Policy in Washington, DC; a Visiting Fellow at The Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Antisemitism at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut; and a Research Scholar at the Initiative on Anti-Semitism and Anti-Israelism of the Institute for Jewish & Community Research in San Francisco.

Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
Shot at 2010-01-03

Offline Kahane-Was-Right BT

  • Honorable Winged Member
  • Gold Star JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12581
At the end of the day it is up to the Yemenites that remain there to make the right decision to make aliyah.  No one can make it for them and they cannot blame anyone for their own choice.   The article is not 100% accurate because it is not just that Satmar chassidim 'discourage them from moving to Israel' - They prefer them to come to the US and join the Satmar community, believe it or not.  They encourage them to go to the US.  And they have helped yemenite Jews get out, but they are so antizionist that they pressure them to choose a foreign land of exile, the US, over Israel.   That is a disgrace.   But it's not that they want them to get raped or murdered chas veshalom.    But embracing the galut is only asking for that anyway, even if it is the US....   That is what the satmar does not understand.   

Also let's deal with historical reality.  Yes the Yemenites who came many years ago faced terrible hardships and many were the abuses of the state against them.   But today they can't get away with that, and they aren't trying.

The state already has its hands full with the new 'enemy of the state' of today - the settlers.   So Yemenites should not worry about coming to Israel today and integrating somewhere.

Offline Ari Ben-Canaan

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2284
  • "The Necromancers Could Not Stand Before Moses."
Quote
Also let's deal with historical reality.  Yes the Yemenites who came many years ago faced terrible hardships and many were the abuses of the state against them.   But today they can't get away with that, and they aren't trying.

Could you explain this a bit more out for someone who is not familiar with the hardships the Yemeni Jews have faced in Israel.  I thought Yemenis were regarded as some who may very well practice the most similar Judaism to our Hebrew forefathers, no?

Is the problem simply moving from a country like Yemen to a much more fast pace country like Israel?
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

 “I am all peace, but when I speak, they are for war.” -Psalms 120:7

"The difference between a Jewish liberal and a Jewish conservative is that when a Jewish liberal walks out of the Holocaust Museum, he feels, "This shows why we need to have more tolerance and multiculturalism." The Jewish conservative feels, "We should have killed a lot more Nazis, and sooner."" - Philip Klein

Offline Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks

  • Honorable Winged Member
  • Gold Star JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 23384
  • Real Kahanist
The Satmar "rabbi" Teitelbaum was the Jewish Martin Luther.

Offline Kahane-Was-Right BT

  • Honorable Winged Member
  • Gold Star JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12581
Quote
Also let's deal with historical reality.  Yes the Yemenites who came many years ago faced terrible hardships and many were the abuses of the state against them.   But today they can't get away with that, and they aren't trying.

Could you explain this a bit more out for someone who is not familiar with the hardships the Yemeni Jews have faced in Israel. 

Chaim has done many videos on this, maybe someone can point us to the links to these videos.   They used to kidnap children from their parents and tell the parents "something happened, your child didn't survive" and then they would have far-left antireligious people raise the kids. 

Quote
I thought Yemenis were regarded as some who may very well practice the most similar Judaism to our Hebrew forefathers, no?

True.

Quote
Is the problem simply moving from a country like Yemen to a much more fast pace country like Israel?

No the problem is the labor party is concerned with only one matter over everything else - how many people will vote for labor party.   The Israeli govt felt that they had to "initiate" the Yemenites into zionism by kidnapping thousands from their parents, planting them onto secular kibutzim, cutting their payot off, and forcing them to assimilate and drop religion.   Because what religious Jew with self-pride would ever consider voting for labor party?   So they decided they have to pummel them into self-hatred in order to get votes.

Many Yemenites suffered heavily under the iron fist of the israeli anti-Jewish regime.    The unfortunate reality is that the govt of Israel does not have the same intentions or goals as the Jewish people at large, nor the Jewish religion.

Offline Kahane-Was-Right BT

  • Honorable Winged Member
  • Gold Star JTF Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12581
Also I recommend asking Chaim a question about it on Ask JTF as he knows this subject well and can share some info with us that we may not find easily.  Aside from asking Yemenites personally or looking at some old articles by Rabbi Kahane, I'm not sure if this was ever put into print in detail.

Offline Ari Ben-Canaan

  • Master JTFer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2284
  • "The Necromancers Could Not Stand Before Moses."
Quote
Also let's deal with historical reality.  Yes the Yemenites who came many years ago faced terrible hardships and many were the abuses of the state against them.   But today they can't get away with that, and they aren't trying.

Could you explain this a bit more out for someone who is not familiar with the hardships the Yemeni Jews have faced in Israel. 

Chaim has done many videos on this, maybe someone can point us to the links to these videos.   They used to kidnap children from their parents and tell the parents "something happened, your child didn't survive" and then they would have far-left antireligious people raise the kids. 

Quote
I thought Yemenis were regarded as some who may very well practice the most similar Judaism to our Hebrew forefathers, no?

True.

Quote
Is the problem simply moving from a country like Yemen to a much more fast pace country like Israel?

No the problem is the labor party is concerned with only one matter over everything else - how many people will vote for labor party.   The Israeli govt felt that they had to "initiate" the Yemenites into zionism by kidnapping thousands from their parents, planting them onto secular kibutzim, cutting their payot off, and forcing them to assimilate and drop religion.   Because what religious Jew with self-pride would ever consider voting for labor party?   So they decided they have to pummel them into self-hatred in order to get votes.

Many Yemenites suffered heavily under the iron fist of the israeli anti-Jewish regime.    The unfortunate reality is that the govt of Israel does not have the same intentions or goals as the Jewish people at large, nor the Jewish religion.

If this is so, this is hideous.  It makes me hate Leftism all that much more.
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

 “I am all peace, but when I speak, they are for war.” -Psalms 120:7

"The difference between a Jewish liberal and a Jewish conservative is that when a Jewish liberal walks out of the Holocaust Museum, he feels, "This shows why we need to have more tolerance and multiculturalism." The Jewish conservative feels, "We should have killed a lot more Nazis, and sooner."" - Philip Klein