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Offline wonga66

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And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« on: February 07, 2010, 11:12:34 PM »
Just in case you thought that your "Aliya" was rough!
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=168089

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 11:21:35 PM »
they refused them medical help but at the same time they send hundreds of doctors to G-d forsaken Haiti and kiss thier asses over there while these 2 Jews suffer in their airport.  sickening

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 12:45:24 PM »
They caused her to have a miscarriage.  I hope they sue and win!!

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 02:15:57 PM »
 What the f***!!!? This sort of thing is going on in Israel!? No wonder people don't make aliya. >:(
Nuke the arabs till they glow, then shoot them in the dark.

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 03:08:03 PM »
About 2000 Americans make Aliya every year.

But 36,000 Israelis make permanent Yerida every year also, mostly to America!

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 03:50:48 PM »
Why do you mimick the poorly researched propaganda piece of jpost?

Look in the comments on that article and look at "exclusivevending" and the red bull scams....  Someone isn't telling the full story.

Wonga is clearly scaring Jews away from making aliyah, a grave sin.   He is just using this wacky story to do so.

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 06:51:26 PM »
For His own inscrutable reasons Hashem makes it that not everyone is meant to live in Israel at this time, even today: "A land that vomits forth its inhabitants...." (Vayikra 18).

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 07:56:29 PM »
For His own inscrutable reasons Hashem makes it that not everyone is meant to live in Israel at this time, even today: "A land that vomits forth its inhabitants...." (Vayikra 18).

I agree with KWRBT that it seems like you're trying to discourage Jews from making aliyah. That's very problematic.

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 08:16:56 PM »
I think that KWRBT is also right that this is propaganda by jpost. I recently read another article from jpost about a different guy who was having aliyah problems. Someone left a comment that was something like, "the days of dancing the hora in Israel are over. Just live in the U.S., make a decent living, and visit Israel occasionally (and be sure to stay in the Hilton)." For every incident like those described in the jpost articles, I'm sure there are ten cases of people making aliyah and living happily and successfully in Israel.

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 08:31:30 PM »
  Even if the guy is a criminal, it's a sin to force them to pay for an ambulance for the wife, and, because they had no money, forcing them to stay in the airport, which caused the wife to miscarry.  The man also had a severe sinus infection.  So socialized medicine isn't so great, after all?!  For the Jewish state to give this treatment to any Jew in the state of Israel is despicable and unconscionable.
  On the other hand, Israel is willing to go to Haiti, more than halfway around the world, to save non-Jews.  Obviously, the medical help to Haiti mainly serves as "P.R"=public relations" to the rest of the world.  Guess what, Israel?  The world will hate Israel and Jews no matter how much good Israel and Jews do.
 
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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 11:29:01 PM »
  Even if the guy is a criminal, it's a sin to force them to pay for an ambulance for the wife, and, because they had no money, forcing them to stay in the airport, which caused the wife to miscarry.  The man also had a severe sinus infection.  So socialized medicine isn't so great, after all?!  For the Jewish state to give this treatment to any Jew in the state of Israel is despicable and unconscionable.
  On the other hand, Israel is willing to go to Haiti, more than halfway around the world, to save non-Jews.  Obviously, the medical help to Haiti mainly serves as "P.R"=public relations" to the rest of the world.  Guess what, Israel?  The world will hate Israel and Jews no matter how much good Israel and Jews do.
 

yup...and proof of this is the argument i had with a pro palestinian jerk on youtube.  when he said to me that Israel is a racist state, i told him how racist can they possibly be when they sent more help to haiti then any other nation on earth.  his answer to me was who cares about haiti?  and then went on a rant about how Israel mistreats the darling palestinians...etc.

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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 05:50:40 AM »
That planeloads of hundreds of dubiously Jewish, 100% gentile even, Ethiopian Blacks and Ukranian Blondes are flying in to Israel daily, being given ID cards, free appartments, $$$ cash and medical care, and this poor Jewish American sod has to suffer: what a disgrace.

Even an illegal schvartze "Black-as-Coal" economic migrant who hops over the non-existent Sinai border fence is given free immediate Israeli medical care at a top hospital!

One thing: never make the common mistake of Anglo Jews of loudly demanding entry to the Jewish State on grounds that you're Jewish: the merciless, coldhearted Ben Gurion Airport Israeli Passport Control and Ministry of the Interior tarts will ensure that you'll be put on to the next flight back to JFK!!
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Re: And you thought that your Aliya was rough!
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 07:38:59 AM »
The Sudanese, Ethiopians, Philipinas and Russians are welcomed in with open arms and given free medical care and benefits.  American Jews are forced to show Jewish birth, marriage and death documents from parents and grandparents on your mother's side if you want to get married there.  They'll let American Jews make aliyah with just a letter from a rabbi.  They do this because Israel needs soldiers in the army.  However, Israeli society, secular and religious, will treat you like a goy/non-Jew, if you don't have complete Jewish documentation from the parents and grandparents on your mother's side.