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Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« on: February 28, 2010, 10:27:28 AM »
Lady Gaga Ambiguous Over Whether She Is Androgynous (warning, strong content)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/lady-gaga-and-the-hermaphrodite-controversy-is-she-or-isnt-she/article1482773/?cid=olym10

I'm gonna go ahead and say this "female" equivalent of Prince, who boasts of sleeping with both males and females, is in fact androgynous (i.e. a he-she, a chromosomal error). But whether it is (because LG is clearly neither male nor female) or not, it is a disgusting piece of pig dreck.

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Quote from: The Globe And Mail
Lady Gaga and the hermaphrodite controversy: Is she or isn't she?
Sarah Hampson
Published on Friday, Feb. 26, 2010 1:05PM EST
Last updated on Friday, Feb. 26, 2010 10:03PM EST

The penis speculation reared its head at the Glastonbury festival as Lady Gaga, the provocative pop artist, hopped off a motorbike in a very short skirt revealing a sticky-outty part no one knew she had.

(Come on, don't tell me you're the one person on the planet who didn't Google it.) Was it fake? Real? It didn't really matter. A penis is every girl's best accessory if she wants to make a statement.

To defy categorization – not a bad ambition for an avant-garde artist – suggesting you're a hermaphrodite with bits of both female and male reproductive parts is one way to do it.

And now the flamboyant 23-year-old singer is on the cover of Britain's Q magazine, her bare breasts covered with one Edward-Scissorhands-like claw, the other resting on the bulging crotch of her pants. “We all know that one of the biggest talking points of the year was that I have a dick, so why not give them what they want?” she is quoted as saying of her strategic padding.

The shock value is one thing. This is the woman who has performed with blood smeared across her face and clothes, let's not forget.

But she's also making a pointed remark about gender expectations. And perhaps Lady Gaga, who reads the zeitgeist like a book, is purposefully flouting what some have called the “last taboo.”

Hermaphroditism is an old term for a condition now commonly referred to as intersex, in which there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries). Some form of gender ambiguity occurs in one in every 2,000 births, according to the Intersex Society of North America. Intersex is now part of mainstream discourse (and activism), as people born with ambiguous genitalia who were surgically assigned a gender talk openly about living in the wrong body.

“Intersexuality is the last taboo in that line of different genders and different sexualities,” notes Elisabeth Engebretsen, a social anthropologist and lecturer at McGill University's Institute for Gender, Sexuality and Feminist Studies.

The cultural fascination with the idea of intersex may be part of our collective (and slow) adjustment to the eventual acceptance of it. It could also speak to our fear of “other” – a deep anxiety about how we understand our species. Gender is an organizing principle of society, after all.

But long before (and even since) the growing awareness about intersexuality issues, the possibility of someone having both male and female parts has served to illuminate rigid cultural attitudes about expectations for male and female behaviour.

Consider the women who have been accused of being hermaphrodites. Jamie Lee Curtis is rumoured to be one (if you go by Internet gossip). She wears her hair short. She doesn't dye the grey. She is handsome, rather than conventionally pretty. She doesn't fit ideals of what it means to be a woman, in other words.

And that holds true for assumptions about a woman's sexuality. For example, the Duchess of Windsor, the twice-divorced American for whom Edward VIII abdicated the throne in 1936, was said to have a voracious sexual appetite with courtesan-like tricks up her Schiaparelli sleeves. Also somewhat mannish in appearance, she was rumoured to be a hermaphrodite.

Clearly, the message is that for a woman to have a less-than-demure sexuality she has to have some hidden cojones.

Gaga gets it. When a guy goes out and sleeps with a bunch of women, she told Q, “there's a high-five and giggling. But when a woman does it and it's publicized or she's open about her sexuality or she's free or liberated, it's ‘Oh, she must have a dick.'”

But if the hermaphrodite label is used as punishment – or a need to “place” women who don't quite fit ideals in terms of looks, ambition or sexuality – it also serves to titillate, something Lady Gaga is never afraid of exploiting.

Hermaphroditism is an atavistic obsession that reaches back to Greek mythology. “On the one hand, it's dark and ominous and on the other there's a sense of it being special and magical,” says Marguerite Deslauriers, director of the gender studies institute and associate professor of philosophy at McGill. “In ancient philosophy, the assumption is that if we were whole, each person would have two sexes.”

Citing the work of both Plato and Aristotle, Deslauriers believes that “part of the fascination is that if you were intersexed, you would know so much more and this would be fascinating sexual knowledge.”

In her highly sexualized performances and costumes, perhaps Lady Gaga is also intentionally addressing a pornography-inured culture, in which chicks with you-know-what loom in the imagination.

Whatever her intentions, she shrewdly tolerates and plays up the rumours. At its simplest level, her message is that gender is all performance art.

When Lady Gaga sat down with Barbara Walters in January, she tottered out on platform heels, dressed in a classic black Chanel suit, her Marilyn Monroe hair in a white cloud around her perfectly made-up face. Walters asked point-blank, in her prurient-as-a-concerned-aunt fashion, whether she was bisexual.

Lady Gaga hesitated, as any lady would when asked about her bedroom preferences on national TV. But then she confirmed that she had sexual relations with men and women.

Walters never asked for clarification about the rumours of intersexuality. But she did wonder whether the singer cared about the speculation over her sexuality. Lady Gaga said no, adding, “I like pushing boundaries.”

It was the perfect response. She was sweet, demure even. And the famous interviewer was charmed, gushing, “You're not at all what I expected.”


Seriously, doesn't the gender of this creature appear to be indeterminate?

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 10:30:38 AM »
I didn't know intersex conditions were that common. 1 in 2000 seems like a high figure. I would have thought it would be more along the lines of 1 in 10000. 

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 10:58:46 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga

The main picture in the wikipedia article seems to negate the speculation that she has external make part.

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 12:51:43 PM »
There is no proof she is a man.  You can dislike her without making her into something she is not: a man.  If you don't like her music, that's fine.  If you don't like her message, that's fine.  If you think she promotes values that are contrary to yours, that's fine.  But let's not make her into the proverbial anti-Christ, demonizing every last bit of her every essence.  There are enough people in the world that TRULY deserve that kind of contempt/discrimination.

I will say in Dr. Brennan's defense though, if she is donning something that makes her look like she has a penis, then she is striking a new low.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 02:29:22 PM »
Why is it important to even speculate on something like this. I am out of the loop when it comes to celebrities like this and have never heard her sing however I am sure she is using this controversy to boost her recognition. Why do people get so caught up in stuff like this. She is playing up the public big time with this sweat sock routine  :::D
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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 02:38:04 PM »
I think her music is just garbage.  It's almost like Paul McCartney wrote the lyrics to her songs.
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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 04:15:35 PM »
The main picture in the wikipedia article seems to negate the speculation that she has external make part.
Yeah, and she still has broad shoulders and a masculine face. Plus it's not that hard to tuck that part in if you don't want to show it.

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 04:16:57 PM »
I would not say she has the talent of price. At least prince can play many instruments yet he doesn't make good music.

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 04:38:30 PM »
I hate that hair color!

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 05:40:12 PM »
Lady what what?






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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 05:53:23 PM »
Is that really "it's" shoulders? I thought it was a chair.  :::D :::D :::D
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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 10:40:38 PM »
she's definitely not a man...

but yes, she's garbage...
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 11:45:34 PM »
That color hair is no good for any woman.  It's very aging. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 11:50:53 PM »
Males have an XYXYXYXYXY pattern while females have ten X chromosomes ..sometimes things go wrong. Im not sure I completely understand why S/he is being condemned, besides for her music of course LOL.

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 04:26:51 AM »
Also to her defend I want to say, if she is indeed a hermo~, then wouldn't it justify being bisexual ?

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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 04:35:42 AM »
Also to her defend I want to say, if she is indeed a hermo~, then wouldn't it justify being bisexual ?
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 05:46:54 AM »
She is another one of pop's immoral animals who has "talent". She is not a hermaphrodite. And even if she were, who cares?!
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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2010, 12:52:21 PM »
Also to her defend I want to say, if she is indeed a hermo~, then wouldn't it justify being bisexual ?

I've wondered before how someone who is truly in between is supposed to find a mate in a moral way. Does the Bible ever  mention cases of people who are not male or female? It doesn't seem to include any kind of instructions in regards to how to deal with unique cases. Another unique case I've wondered about in the past is when someone is conjoined. Would it be ok for a single man to marry two conjoined sisters, or for a single woman to marry two conjoined brothers? I don't think there's any instruction about this at all from the Bible. I am curious to know if there are any commentaries about these unique and unusual types of situations.

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »
I think in a few months she'll lose all her popularity and people will go "Lady Ga Ga what?"
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2010, 06:36:13 AM »


Seriously, doesn't the gender of this creature appear to be indeterminate?

You do realize those are not really her shoulders, right?

lol.   Dude, it's an avant-garde outfit.   It is made to look wacky, not actually fitting her actual shoulders.

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Re: Disgusting Kurva Singer Lady Gaga May Be A Hermaphrodite
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2010, 08:52:07 AM »
I was emphasizing her masculine face, not the fake shoulders.