The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
enemyofthestate:
--- Quote from: NeverMore on September 20, 2006, 09:37:13 AM ---i really dont find any reason for you to keep saying you are a muslim if you sincerely dont believe in the vicious quran, just like Yacov said. if you keep on calling yourself a muslim, despite saying you are righteous, then you ARE doing the Taqiya, simply no other explanation exists. you just cant be in the middle- either you are a muslim, with all the qurans obligations to do kill infidels, or not. unlike Judaism, islam isnt a people, but only a religion. why would someone who doesnt believe in this religion would still call himself a muslim?? you can drop islam, if you didnt lie about your beliefs, and become a "Noahite", thus being a righteous gentile.
but after all we had from muslims, dont expect us not to be suspicious of you. clear your position and decide what are you- muslim or noahite.
--- End quote ---
I think what is being missed here is interpretation. And how, in this case, the Quran is interpreted. You can take a Christian fundamentalist and a left wing Catholic and they will both have different interpretation of the same Bible. The same is true for Muslims and for Jews for that matter. This is no absolution when it comes to interpretation especially in regards to text that is thousands of years old like the Torah, The bible or the Quran. Religious fundamentalists will see their holy book as absolution; what is wirtten is what is meant and other more moderate or liberal people will read the same book as see the passages as metaphors if you will.
Based on what has been written about me here it seems clear that there is no such thing as a rightous Muslim and if they are so then they cant be a true Muslim because a true Muslim wants to kill all infidels. Simply put that is not fair and my understanding and teaching of the Quran never lent itself to inspiring me or anyone I know to kill anyone. EVER!
As far as trying to convince anyone I am a good person only to stab them in the back when they are not looking is absolutely ridiculous and nothing more than paranoia on your part.
NeverMore:
you should check our correspondence with the nazi "khaan" here in the forums. there, i said that you can interpret even "my kampf" as a peacefull book. when it is written to kill all infidels, and you interpret it as "love for all", thats your problem, go find a book that you truly simpathyze with it AS IT IS without any need to bend what is written.
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: enemyofthestate on September 20, 2006, 10:55:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: NeverMore on September 20, 2006, 09:37:13 AM ---i really dont find any reason for you to keep saying you are a muslim if you sincerely dont believe in the vicious quran, just like Yacov said. if you keep on calling yourself a muslim, despite saying you are righteous, then you ARE doing the Taqiya, simply no other explanation exists. you just cant be in the middle- either you are a muslim, with all the qurans obligations to do kill infidels, or not. unlike Judaism, islam isnt a people, but only a religion. why would someone who doesnt believe in this religion would still call himself a muslim?? you can drop islam, if you didnt lie about your beliefs, and become a "Noahite", thus being a righteous gentile.
but after all we had from muslims, dont expect us not to be suspicious of you. clear your position and decide what are you- muslim or noahite.
--- End quote ---
I think what is being missed here is interpretation. And how, in this case, the Quran is interpreted. You can take a Christian fundamentalist and a left wing Catholic and they will both have different interpretation of the same Bible. The same is true for Muslims and for Jews for that matter. This is no absolution when it comes to interpretation especially in regards to text that is thousands of years old like the Torah, The bible or the Quran. Religious fundamentalists will see their holy book as absolution; what is wirtten is what is meant and other more moderate or liberal people will read the same book as see the passages as metaphors if you will.
Based on what has been written about me here it seems clear that there is no such thing as a rightous Muslim and if they are so then they cant be a true Muslim because a true Muslim wants to kill all infidels. Simply put that is not fair and my understanding and teaching of the Quran never lent itself to inspiring me or anyone I know to kill anyone. EVER!
As far as trying to convince anyone I am a good person only to stab them in the back when they are not looking is absolutely ridiculous and nothing more than paranoia on your part.
--- End quote ---
1) If someone defames mohammed, the entire muslim world goes INSANE. If someone defames Moses or Jesus, all you will hear is the chirping of crickets.
Therefore, which of these religions eluded to is NOT peaceful?
2) If a non-muslim touches a koran, the entire muslim world becomes outraged. If a Nick Berg gets his head sawed off for loving and helping muslims, the muslim world is silent.
Why is this?
3) A religion of peace will NEVER produce suicide bombers, no matter HOW one interprets the book. ;)
Good luck trying to convince us otherwise.
NeverMore:
mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?
enemyofthestate:
--- Quote from: NeverMore on September 20, 2006, 11:57:07 AM ---mr. enemy, are you also an "ahmedi" muslim?
--- End quote ---
Honestly, do you really care what I am? I have already been written off by the paranoid posters in this forum, So what difference would it make?
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