The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
Rhuan:
How can you follow a religion that forbids musical instruments and claim to believe in freedom/have a life?
If you believe that Islam does not condemn musical instruments, read the following quote of muhammed.
"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v].
How can you say that Islam condemns violence?
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, and they do not forbid what God and His messenger have forbidden, and they do not uphold the system of truth; from among the people who have been given the Scripture; until they pay the fine, willingly or unwillingly."surah 9 verse 29
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: enemyofthestate on September 28, 2006, 10:48:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Scriabin on September 20, 2006, 04:11:23 PM ---Also, why don't the majority of 'good' muslims take the initiative and kill the 'extremists'? (After all, they're "hijacking a peaceful religion," right?) ;)
The fact of the matter is that the 'extremists' are heroes throughout the muslim world. There is not a muslim on Earth that would harm a hair on an 'extremist' muslim's head, under ANY circumstances (and its not because of fear).
When muslims 'claim' to condemn the activities of, "a few extremists" they are LYING.
--- End quote ---
LIke i said i have a life and dont go back in the different pages to see who responded 5 days ago.
answer to your first question: killing is a sin to righteous muslims. and to ask why mom, dad, little sister and big brother mulims families dont kill the extremist is because they are just common families probably like your family or some other family out there who have never seen a gun let alone shoot one.
Muslims are not lying if they condemn the actions of extremists. In fact they are taking rsiks when they publicly condemn extremists since they are now a potential target for treason in the extremists eyes
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Whether or not you have a life is not only debatable, it is IRRELEVANT.
Try sticking to the issues.
I disagree. If you have a real problem in a society, it must be dealt with. If the so-called islamic 'extremists' are really a threat to the 'peaceful' islamic way of life, the powers that be would have NO trouble taking care of the situation. They don't because these shahid are heroes throughout the islamic world.
enemyofthestate:
--- Quote from: Rhuan on September 28, 2006, 11:01:19 AM ---How can you follow a religion that forbids musical instruments and claim to believe in freedom/have a life?
If you believe that Islam does not condemn musical instruments, read the following quote of muhammed.
"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v].
How can you say that Islam condemns violence?
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, and they do not forbid what God and His messenger have forbidden, and they do not uphold the system of truth; from among the people who have been given the Scripture; until they pay the fine, willingly or unwillingly."surah 9 verse 29
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we are living in the 21 century. Instead of quoting ancient versus from thousands of years ago that only an extremist would use try considering how easy it is for any book, the old or new testament to be disseminated to reveal violence.
enemyofthestate:
--- Quote from: Scriabin on September 28, 2006, 11:04:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: enemyofthestate on September 28, 2006, 10:48:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Scriabin on September 20, 2006, 04:11:23 PM ---Also, why don't the majority of 'good' muslims take the initiative and kill the 'extremists'? (After all, they're "hijacking a peaceful religion," right?) ;)
The fact of the matter is that the 'extremists' are heroes throughout the muslim world. There is not a muslim on Earth that would harm a hair on an 'extremist' muslim's head, under ANY circumstances (and its not because of fear).
When muslims 'claim' to condemn the activities of, "a few extremists" they are LYING.
--- End quote ---
LIke i said i have a life and dont go back in the different pages to see who responded 5 days ago.
answer to your first question: killing is a sin to righteous muslims. and to ask why mom, dad, little sister and big brother mulims families dont kill the extremist is because they are just common families probably like your family or some other family out there who have never seen a gun let alone shoot one.
Muslims are not lying if they condemn the actions of extremists. In fact they are taking rsiks when they publicly condemn extremists since they are now a potential target for treason in the extremists eyes
--- End quote ---
Whether or not you have a life is not only debatable, it is IRRELEVANT.
Try sticking to the issues.
I disagree. If you have a real problem in a society, it must be dealt with. If the so-called islamic 'extremists' are really a threat to the 'peaceful' islamic way of life, the powers that be would have NO trouble taking care of the situation. They don't because these shahid are heroes throughout the islamic world.
--- End quote ---
They are not heroes throughout the muslim world. I am curious where you are gettging this information that they are considered heroes... television? newspapers? if thats your source then you are no doubt mis-informed as we all are. IN fact when Alzarqari was killed it was a party in Iraq.
Rhuan:
You didn't reply to my post.
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