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Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« on: December 30, 2006, 10:44:02 PM »
Shalom Marzutra,

You are the best person in this forum to answer this question.

Europe has been following socialism/communism/humanism.  Gas prices are high, rents, house prices and other prices are high as well in Europe.

My question is why Euro has more value than the US Dollar? (1.00 Euro = 1.31950 USD)

There are reports in the internet that Euro will replace the US Dollar soon...?

If this is the case how can we claim that capitalism is successful and free market economy is better?

Thanks!

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2006, 11:11:40 PM »
Maybe you should ask this in Ask JTF.



I have asked this question to Chaim on Jan 14, 2007 Ask JTF.  I modified my previous post for Jan 14

Thanks!
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Isaiah 62:1 -  For Zion's sake I am not silent, And for Jerusalem's sake I do not rest, Till her righteousness go out as brightness, And her salvation, as a torch that burns.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 09:05:55 AM »
Shalom CZ, Chaim will probably say something very similar. 

To answer your question about the Euro.  It is my opinion only, that the entire system is totally corrupted and a fraud due to the international monitary system not having its base on anything, previously gold pound sterling or even pieces of wood in early British times.  Since that the monitary systems have moved to a "Federal"/ central reserve systems of credit the values of currencies have really no reflection of the society/country they belong, directly comparable to stocks in the stock market.  J.M.Keynes was a very active player in this with his Keynesian Economic to control inflation via government spending and taxation.  Well, if this was supposed to work, why did it cause the great depression and depressions in every country with a continually falling dollar.  The Jordanian Dinar should not be worth more than the Euro or the Canadian Dollar, but it is. 

I feel that, from what I have read politically, and know from a MBA in International Finance, that the Globalists, with Bush's: CFR etc. aid are deliberately trying to bring down America because America is the last nation which has any real Capitalism left. 

It is a very good question to which international monitary manipulators are artificially bumping up the Euro while every avenue agaisnt America: Socialism and big foreign business are working together.  When a currency/country has no base for its mony, gold, the value is always a speculative one in that the government or, in the case of Britian and America, private corporations can just print money.  They are in fact producing money out of thin air.  This causes inflation not to mention the staggering interest rate you, as Americans are paying to your government to fund their "borrowing" to private people.  This to me is another part of the sham because in YOUR constitution it specifically states that the Government HAS the power/authority to print and control the monitary supply NOT private citizens.  Sort of similar to your unconstitutional income tax schema.

Similar to share prices of a stocks are supposed to be a reflection of that companies management and over all operations, so too is the dollar: GNP, GDP etc..  America still out performs ALL of Socialist Europe combined in output even with its fleeing manufacturing base to the Turd World.  This is a clue something is wrong...similar to Arafat winning a Nobel Prize....

One big artifical game my friend for speculators and corruption......  I hope this helps.  Capitalism is not even comparable to Socialism.  Socialism has never worked and will never work not even on paper as Marx's Das Kapial turned out to be absolutely fraudulant and worthy of the dust bin of history.  It will end in a big empoverished bloody mess for someone else to clean....

Here is a very good documentary that might answer many of your questions:
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 12:13:42 PM »
They have in the making something called the 'Amero' which is the merging of the US, Candian and the mexician currencies to 'combat' the Euro. In other words this will make an 'Union of the Americas'. The big problem is that the arabs and chinese have such a trememdous amount of US dollars that if they dump them for euros we are in big trouble. The national debt is so high that we will see the dollar drop to nothing. We already have a fiat currency (that means that the dollar is based on nothing but the 'good will' of the government), you combine that with a tremendous debt, no manufacturing base, no way to pay off any type of debts in the private sector, we have big trouble. It is interesting to note that the new capital for this 'american union' was to be miami, it has been moved to atlanta, georgia.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 01:07:05 PM »
They have in the making something called the 'Amero' which is the merging of the US, Candian and the mexician currencies to 'combat' the Euro. In other words this will make an 'Union of the Americas'. The big problem is that the arabs and chinese have such a trememdous amount of US dollars that if they dump them for euros we are in big trouble. The national debt is so high that we will see the dollar drop to nothing. We already have a fiat currency (that means that the dollar is based on nothing but the 'good will' of the government), you combine that with a tremendous debt, no manufacturing base, no way to pay off any type of debts in the private sector, we have big trouble. It is interesting to note that the new capital for this 'american union' was to be miami, it has been moved to atlanta, georgia.
I totally agree with you. In the end it is all one big sham.  Should China and the Arabian Sheikdoms dump their American dollars to switch to the Euro, America will collapse due to the burden of such a hight dept, which you are 100% correct.  The only way I see out of it, due to that the American dollar is based on nothing but air, thanks to the Reserve/Federal system, is to zero ALL foreign accounts and tell them all to [censored] and not pay one cent in debt.  Shifting that immense burden back on them, sort of retribution for many years of Marxist/UN "Wealth Transfers": "Foreign Aid".  In the end, thanks to the manipulation that had led us to abandoning a "based" system it is all numbers, compter digets and air....

Yes, it may cause a war, but looking at the present conditions of the World today, that will come sooner than later.  I'd much rather it now when America is still the only global super power than wait for collapse from the "enemy within".  To carry this notion one step further, if these evil bastards to constitute the Amero in attepts to one day combine America, Canada and Mexico into one second rate socialist welfare state.  The immense burdens of American, Canadian and Mexican debt will drive us all down the toilet.  The best way is for us to bring back trade tarriffs, kick out the enemies within, the gold standard, Capitalism, Conservatism and ZERO all foreign debts and wait for WAR!  No one likes war but these socialist/globalists in my opinion have been one simple factor in the aggrivation/corruption of societies towards war sparking the decline of every great civilization: Egypt, Greece, Persia, Rome, Israel, Mongol, Europe and now it is America's turn to bend over.....  My opinion only.... :)
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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 01:24:18 PM »
Re:  "...It is interesting to note that the new capital for this 'american union' was to be miami, it has been moved to atlanta, georgia..."

So where's General Sherman, now that we need him?

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 03:19:06 PM »
Re:  "...It is interesting to note that the new capital for this 'american union' was to be miami, it has been moved to atlanta, georgia..."

So where's General Sherman, now that we need him?
Can I second that? 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 08:34:08 AM »
Sorry to be off topic for a moment, But wasnt the South African rand more powerful than any other currency uo until the 1980's. It was more powerful than the US dollar back then thats for sure.
I believe you are correct.  Also in the 1970's the Canadian dollar was higher than the American Dollar... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2007, 03:07:44 PM »
The reason that the former great South Africa's currency was so strong is because it was backed by gold. The Rand now is not nearly anything like it was before. When that creature mandala took over south africa went into a nose dive. For all practical purposes it is a place were only black bipeds can tolerate.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 09:53:03 PM »
The reason that the former great South Africa's currency was so strong is because it was backed by gold. The Rand now is not nearly anything like it was before. When that creature mandala took over south africa went into a nose dive. For all practical purposes it is a place were only black bipeds can tolerate.
Exactly similar when Mugabe took over Rhodesia or whatever that country was called also similar to the overthrow of the Belguin Congo.  It seems that every time a republic comes to the forefront of any society the Marxist UN/NATO or whoever finance and overthrow them and insert some communist and turn a relatively productive country into a "Foreign Aid" recipient.  I too find it funny how Mugabe received $300+million per year in "foreign aid", while his people were starving or eating eachother he was building Hotels on the French Cote Dezur (spelling)....  one big sham....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 08:57:14 AM »
Shalom CZ, Chaim will probably say something very similar. 

To answer your question about the Euro.  It is my opinion only, that the entire system is totally corrupted and a fraud due to the international monitary system not having its base on anything, previously gold pound sterling or even pieces of wood in early British times.  Since that the monitary systems have moved to a "Federal"/ central reserve systems of credit the values of currencies have really no reflection of the society/country they belong, directly comparable to stocks in the stock market.  J.M.Keynes was a very active player in this with his Keynesian Economic to control inflation via government spending and taxation.  Well, if this was supposed to work, why did it cause the great depression and depressions in every country with a continually falling dollar.  The Jordanian Dinar should not be worth more than the Euro or the Canadian Dollar, but it is. 

I feel that, from what I have read politically, and know from a MBA in International Finance, that the Globalists, with Bush's: CFR etc. aid are deliberately trying to bring down America because America is the last nation which has any real Capitalism left. 

It is a very good question to which international monitary manipulators are artificially bumping up the Euro while every avenue agaisnt America: Socialism and big foreign business are working together.  When a currency/country has no base for its mony, gold, the value is always a speculative one in that the government or, in the case of Britian and America, private corporations can just print money.  They are in fact producing money out of thin air.  This causes inflation not to mention the staggering interest rate you, as Americans are paying to your government to fund their "borrowing" to private people.  This to me is another part of the sham because in YOUR constitution it specifically states that the Government HAS the power/authority to print and control the monitary supply NOT private citizens.  Sort of similar to your unconstitutional income tax schema.

Similar to share prices of a stocks are supposed to be a reflection of that companies management and over all operations, so too is the dollar: GNP, GDP etc..  America still out performs ALL of Socialist Europe combined in output even with its fleeing manufacturing base to the Turd World.  This is a clue something is wrong...similar to Arafat winning a Nobel Prize....

One big artifical game my friend for speculators and corruption......  I hope this helps.  Capitalism is not even comparable to Socialism.  Socialism has never worked and will never work not even on paper as Marx's Das Kapial turned out to be absolutely fraudulant and worthy of the dust bin of history.  It will end in a big empoverished bloody mess for someone else to clean....

Here is a very good documentary that might answer many of your questions:


So they pretend not to like Venezuela's government but they really do like it?

According to the Constitution,  a  Federal Reserve type system is supposed to be controlled by Congress, not the Rockefeller's. 

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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 10:01:30 AM »
Re:  "...According to the Constitution,  a  Federal Reserve type system is supposed to be controlled by Congress, not the Rockefeller's..."

Incorrect.

The Constitution clearly states that Congress must first amend the Constitution for any changes or departures from it to take place.

The Congress is responsible for the currency & oversight thereof.

There is not supposed to be a "Federal Reserve".

The Constitution states clearly which precious metals are the basis for monetary measurement; gold and silver.

The currrent "floating fiat currency" + Federal Reserve + IRS are all illegal departures from the Constitution.

Nor does the Constitution allow the Executive or Judicial Branch of Government to wage war or establish "international police actions" or put U.S. Armed Forces under UN control or under UN service.

Congress is not allowed to vote to remove their Constitutional dictate to declare and wage war, and place all power of a Caesar Dictator in the hands of a President, as they have clearly done in attempt to "wash their hands of responsibility".

All of these assaults on America by its ruling class of "new aristocrats" are resulting in loss of American national sovereignty, loss of American rights and freedoms, and loss of American territory; all leading inevitably to a Global One-World Government led by a Dictatorship serving only Supra-National Corporate Interests and Big Science.

Year after year, government "of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations, have made laws and designed government "as they saw fit", giving "lip service" to the Constitution, and offering to legislate anything asked of them by the wealthiest and most corrupted individuals and corporations.

Congress today is concerned only with the quickest and least expensive way to enslave, poison, or imprison, anyone refusing to accept the "New Global Feudalism".

Our Founding Fathers warned repeatedly what would happen to us should we opt to depart from their Constitutional framework, and today "the chickens have returned home to the roost".

According to the CIA website, if the American trend for Globalization and "Free Trade" continues to the end of 2007, then it will be completely irreversible.

The new weaponry now in development by the Military-Industrial-Media Complex is designed for use on and against American citizens who are waking up to the growing Tyranny.


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Re: Question For Marzutra - Dollar & Euro
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2007, 06:28:44 PM »
Exactly...that is what I was trying to say.  Thanks for clearification... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.