The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy

[admin]

1. The goal of the JTF Forum, and of all JTF-related activities, is to fight for the survival of America, Israel and Western Civilization.

2. In accordance with this goal, the JTF Forum seeks to provide JTF supporters with the opportunity to express their views, to develop their debating skills, and to learn facts which may not be available elsewhere. JTF hopes that this experience will build new and effective leadership for both the Jews and the Righteous Gentiles in the struggle to save both America and Israel.

3. Critics and opponents of JTF should also be permitted to post messages on this forum as long as the criticism does not include threats or personal attacks. It is healthy for JTF supporters to learn how to debate and respond to such critics, and it also makes the forum more interesting.

4. Threats and personal insults are not acceptable, and will lead to the banning of members who engage in such conduct. The administrators may decide to first provide a warning to any member making threats or personal insults, or may to decide to ban such members immediately.

5. JTF is a religious organization. While we have many non-religious supporters, and we welcome them, we do expect them to respect our beliefs. Therefore, obscene language of any kind is unacceptable and may lead to the banning of a member.

6. Despite what our critics claim, JTF is not a racist organization, and only opposes evil people of any race. We do not condemn blacks or Arabs, for instance, because of their race. But we do condemn the evil behavior that the vast majority of blacks and Arabs have chosen to engage in. Criticism of evil black behavior is acceptable and necessary. But the use of racist terms such as "n*gger" and "sp*c" is not acceptable. Therefore, this forum will not permit the posting of racist terms such as "n*gger" and "sp*c." Using such language only marginalizes JTF. People will not take our proposals on how to deal with America's racial crisis seriously if we use such language.

7. All rules regarding acceptable language and behavior on the forum also apply to personal messages sent to other posters.

This set of rules was written by Chaim Ben Pesach, who sent the text to James Sullivan via E-mail.

[takebackourtemple]

   Thanks for letting me use the word. My other request is if the N word could be replaced with the Hebrew word "Kushim" as opposed to the German word "Schwartza". Is there a Hebrew word for a self-hating Jew that I might be able to use instead of Kike. Thanks again.

[jewishron]

I cant believe with all this collective initelligence in this forum we are reduced to determining how and when derogatory language should or can be used here. Can we all take the high road and not use words LIke "Kike" and "[censored]" and any other word to insult another race. I learned a very valuable lesson many years ago as a child from my mother. Sounds crazy in this day that anyoone can say they learned something valuable from their parents but it is true in my case. I was in my early teens and I ran off at the mouth using profanity. Instead of punishing me she explained to me how stupid i sounded when i spoke with those words. And what she said to me even at that age made so much sense. She said 'using language like that expresses lazy thinking'. I am not going to tell anyone how to express themselves but I certainly wont be using what i consider disgusting language here...

[Until Shiloh Comes]

I cant believe with all this collective initelligence in this forum we are reduced to determining how and when derogatory language should or can be used here. Can we all take the high road and not use words LIke "Kike" and "schvartza" and any other word to insult another race. I learned a very valuable lesson many years ago as a child from my mother. Sounds crazy in this day that anyoone can say they learned something valuable from their parents but it is true in my case. I was in my early teens and I ran off at the mouth using profanity. Instead of punishing me she explained to me how stupid i sounded when i spoke with those words. And what she said to me even at that age made so much sense. She said 'using language like that expresses lazy thinking'. I am not going to tell anyone how to express themselves but I certainly wont be using what i consider disgusting language here...

Hello my friend, and good day to you.

I have to agree.   Why anyone would find a need to use these deragatory terms in regular usage is beyond me.   It only serves to detract from the poster's credibility, and I find no need for it on a forum where only words are read, and intent and delivery is absent.

[takebackourtemple]

Schvartza is a Yiddish word, not just German.

"I cant believe with all this collective initelligence in this forum we are reduced to determining how and when derogatory language should or can be used here."

   I personally believe the derogatory speech is the most accurate way to describe evil people.

   Yiddish is mostly German but contains a small amount of vocabulary from several other languages, most of which are also anti-Semitic ones. The fact that many think Yiddish as opposed to Hebrew is the language of the Jews disturbs me. The only good Yiddish words are ones that are of Hebrew origin. To the best of my understanding, Schwarta is of German origin and the only difference I was able to find is how it is spelled in English characters.

These two appear to contradict each other about whether the word is offensive, but the N word also originated this way. This may be a second reason not to use this word if we choose to not use any derogatory speech.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schwartza
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schwartze

I tried to pull something from a German-English dictionary but they all appear to list a whole bunch of words so you just have to find "Black Person" from the list.
http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?o=3021;dlink=self;iservice=de-en;query=Schwarze 

   I understand that I am in disagreement with mainstream Jewish thought in this belief. I understand that I may disagree with everybody in this forum on this one issue. I did, however, learn from a great Jewish hero who speaks correct Hebrew on several shows we listen to, not to compromise my values to appease someone I may disagree with. This one issue, however, is extremetly minor compared to the goal of saving America and Israel and I am willing to drop this arguement and not use any derogatory speech in order to focus on the more important issues. I see now that I was wrong to want to use the K word because it is Yiddish. I wanted to use it in the style of the shows I've been listening to for many years.
   It is only a request I make to replace Schvartza, Schwarta, Schwarte or however it is spelled with Kushim. Hopefully Kushim is not derogatory.

[jewishron]

this is  a real intelligent converation...

[genteelgentile]

I be thnking I ain't tryin' to hear dat.  Ya heard?

[germanwerewolf]

and what would be the jewish word for a jew that lies and or bears false witness against another?

[wonderfulgoy]

Could you unban the word 'D i c k'?

This is still frequently used for names, and even as a swearword isn't all that bad.

[jewishron]

and what would be the jewish word for a jew that lies and or bears false witness against another?

That would a "good Jew" if he were doing it against a nazi piece of garbage 

[NeverMore]

and what would be the jewish word for a jew that lies and or bears false witness against another?

That would a "good Jew" if he were doing it against a nazi piece of garbage 

WTF??
 

[enemyofthestate]

that is silly

[enemyofthestate]

is the word [censored] o.k.?

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...is the word [censored] o.k.?..."

No!
Say "coon" instead.

[takebackourtemple]

   Go to time 55:50 on the September 17th website. This is exactly what I have been telling people for several years now. I'm so glad Chaim said this. In my guts I know that Chaim is right.

[DavidWright5]

So we cant call black people schvartzas here now? This is [censored]!

Edit: For the record I put the word NIGG3R there and schvartzas came out. Censorship at the JTF? Oy vey!

[Shlomo]

So we cant call black people schvartzas here now? This is ...!

This is a religious forum. Please watch your language.

[jsullivan]

We have made it clear repeatedly that racist language and obscenities will not be tolerated on this forum.  We have even censored such language, so that if someone uses a racist term or an obscenity, the prohibited term will be replaced automatically with the word "delete."

However, posters can always find a way around our controls if they want to, and surely enough, one poster has now found a way to use these prohibited terms.

That leaves us with only one other way to prevent this forum from deteriorating into a forum that no one will take seriously.  (Because the use of overtly racist language and obscenities marginalizes JTF.) 

Our last way to prevent posters from ignoring our rules is to issue warnings, and if the warnings are ignored, then to ban the posters who violate the rules.

Therefore, we hope that everyone gets this message and that we will not have to resort to banning people.

You can make your points just as effectively, in fact more effectively, without using overt racist language and obscenities.

[Daniel]

With all due respect, I think this position is extremely hypocritical. How can you possibly complain about anyone on this forum using racist terms and obscenities when Chaim constantly uses these same racist terms and obscenities on his programs all the time. Why are we creating this hypocritical double standard? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. We don't censor anything Chaim Ben Pesach says, things that are a lot more racist and profane than what anyone can say on here, but yet we can't engage in the same behavior? How can you possibly justify this position?

Daniel

[Until Shiloh Comes]

Hello Daniel, and good day to you.

I disagree with what you've written about Chaim Ben Pesach.   Personally I've never heard him make use of racial epithets, much less obscenities on any of his programs for the 7 years I've been listening to him.  I believe you've confused Chaim's strong and acerbic language for racist and profane speech.

[cjd]

With all due respect, I think this position is extremely hypocritical. How can you possibly complain about anyone on this forum using racist terms and obscenities when Chaim constantly uses these same racist terms and obscenities on his programs all the time. Why are we creating this hypocritical double standard? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. We don't censor anything Chaim Ben Pesach says, things that are a lot more racist and profane than what anyone can say on here, but yet we can't engage in the same behavior? How can you possibly justify this position?

Daniel

I must disagree with you also. I have also never heard Chaim use any obscenities on any of his shows. Any racial terms Chaim may use are always put into the proper context for what ever point he is trying to bring across. As a poster who crosses the line at times using descriptions that some may feel are racist I see it is easy to become too descriptive in some posts. Some restraint imposed by the administrators may make for better reading.  I feel that the guidelines jsullivan has imposed are good ones and we should all try to stick to the rules as much as we can.

[Scriabin]

Chaim uses humor that is always backed up with logic and reason.

The people that jsullivan speaks of are devoid of logic and reason.

[MarZutra]

I agree with you about Chaim.  In actual fact the "Racism" has been so molested via liberal and communist propagation that they have in fact changed the entire meaning of the word in the minds of the ignorant.  Racism has nothing to do with "hating blacks because of them being black or their race" the actual deffinition for "Racism" from Cambridge Dictionary is the belief one/your race is superior to another race.  If one wishes to read "The History of the Word" by Socialist Theosophist H.G. Wells or Conservative Paul Johnson or even Oswald Spengler's "Decline of the West" one will find that from whatever angle blacks have contributed FAR less, if anything whatsoever, productive to humanity.  With that knowledge real "Racism" is anyone whom is White and knowledged would be a "Racist" due to the fact that Whites have been directly responsible for the majority of advancements within the "Civilized" World and ALL of the advancements within the Turd World.  Thus "racism" is not even a negative thing because it would be about encouraging those non-contributory poeples to clean themselves and their cultures up to do something positive for humanity.  This is as I understand the logic behind the actual deffinition of "Racism" and not its twisting by the Marxists. 

On another note, I feel that JTF should be able to use any language any other peoples use continually in whatever context they so desire as long as it is in an educated and informative way not just spewing hate.  I personally feel that Michael Richards should NOT have appologized for his outburst until the Blacks, like the Muslims, have reformed their own degenerative cultures and appologize for their negative and truly bigotted comments...  Like Kahane stated so nicely "Ignorance and arrogance are the poisons of the Liberal mind"

[MassuhDGoodName]

Chaim Ben Pesach is the world's foremost Civil Rights Leader!

I'm tired of all the false accusations from those who are against Civil Rights!

Chaim works tirelessly to ensure that the Civl Rights Act of 1964 is fulfilled in our lifetime!

[MarZutra]

Chaim Ben Pesach is the world's foremost Civil Rights Leader!

I'm tired of all the false accusations from those who are against Civil Rights!

Chaim works tirelessly to ensure that the Civl Rights Act of 1964 is fulfilled in our lifetime!

Denying Civil Rights....that must be the Communists...lol