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 Video: Petraeus: 'I never said Israel endangering US troops'

During a March 24, 2010 press conference at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at St. Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire, Gen. David Petraeus responds to a question from the American Spectator's Philip Klein over the recent debate over his position on how the Israeli-Palestinian conflict affects the broader U.S. objectives in the region.

Guess what: Petraeus never said that Israel is endangering US troops.

If you note, he refers to the Perry piece (that's the blog) right at the beginning, and says that Perry got all three items wrong. And he mentions the Max Boot piece and says that Boot got it right. And he backs US Special Middle East envoy George Mitchell (Perry claimed Petraeus wanted Mitchell replaced).

Let's go to the videotape.



So we can cross David Petraeus off the list of people out to get Israel.

UPDATE 1:50 PM  the tape


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I am pretty sure he has said that Israeli settlements are making his job harder.  In other words he still believes that Jews have to go back to the Aushcwicz lines of June 67 for him to succeed.  It is still trouble for Israsel.
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Why are you so adamant about protecting this guy?

Are you so afraid of facing the fact that the US military leadership is not Pro-Israel?


Here is General Petraeus's written testimony from the horse's MOUTH!!!

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Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas.

http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03%20March/Petraeus%2003-16-10.pdf pg 12

Now of course General Petraeus is not going to say outright that Israel is endangering U.S. troops at this point, because he is too smart to do that. Just like Obama's adviser Samantha Power who implicitly called for the U.S. military invasion of Israel, Petraeus will not at this point say anything overtly anti-Israel. However his words are laying the seeds for outright anti-semitism to become mainstream.

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Obama adviser Samantha Power implicitly calls for the invasion of Israel.
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Why are you so adamant about protecting this guy?

Are you so afraid of facing the fact that the US military leadership is not Pro-Israel?


Here is General Petraeus's written testimony from the horse's MOUTH!!!

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Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas.

http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03%20March/Petraeus%2003-16-10.pdf pg 12

Now of course General Petraeus is not going to say outright that Israel is endangering U.S. troops at this point, because he is too smart to do that. Just like Obama's adviser Samantha Power who implicitly called for the U.S. military invasion of Israel, Petraeus will not at this point say anything overtly anti-Israel. However his words are laying the seeds for outright anti-semitism to become mainstream.

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Obama adviser Samantha Power implicitly calls for the invasion of Israel.


Why are you so adamant about pretending that Petraus himself was not the one to clarify his own comments and what was said in his name by others?   This article is also in his own words...   Perry made up some extra lies to go along with what Petraus actually said.  Furthermore, he comments in the A7 article that his comment refers to Arab PERCEPTION of US favoring Israel, not necessarily that the US views the conflict that way.

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136731

Petraeus Confirms INN's Report: Never Blamed Israel

(IsraelNN.com) United States General David Petraeus, head of U.S.Central Command (CENTCOM) whose area of responsibility includes  Afghanistan and Iraq, set the record straight Wednesday regarding his statements about the Israeli-Arab conflict. In a talk given at St. Anselm College, Petraeus said that recent reports claiming he had blamed Israel for US military deaths were erroneous.

INN had reported on March 17th that the rumors that the general had blamed Israel were based on an article by Arafat's former advisor, Mark Perry on Foreign Policys website, and were not credible. INN also consulted the security think tank, JINSA, at the time, who also claimed that the rumors were baseless. INN article refuted all three items attributed to Petraeus. On Thursday, March 25, the conservative website Spectator reported that "Petraeus poured cold water on the controversy, explaining in detail why 'all three items...were wrong'."

Petraeus had been quoted as attributing American military deaths to the perception of America as pro-Israel, based on statements allegedly included in a report given to the US Senate. The claim that he blamed support for Israel for American deaths was completely false, he said. “There is no mention of lives anywhere in [the report]... It doesn't say that at all,” he stated.

Petraeus told his audience that he had already contacted IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi, whom he referred to as “Gabi,” to clarify the matter.

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INN had reported that Mark Perry, writing in Foreign Policy, said Petraeus had suggested that America's support for Israel was hurting US interests. “The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests,” Petraeus was quoted as saying. “Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of US partnerships with governments and peoples in the [Middle East] and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world.”

The quotes were taken out of context, Petraeus said. The statements were not remarks he made at a Senate hearing, as bloggers implied, but rather, were taken from a 56-page report submitted to the Senate's Armed Services Committee.

In addition, he said, the statements did not reflect America's view of the Israel-Arab conflict, but only addressed the perception of the conflict in the Arab world. “We noted in there that there was a perception at times that America sides with Israel and so forth. And that is a perception... I don't think that's disputable,” he said.

The report submitted to the senate also noted other influences on the region, such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's Holocaust denial, he noted.

According to a third rumor, Petraeus had asked that Judea, Samaria and Gaza be added to his terrain as leader of the Central Command, which covers most of the Middle East. That rumor was “flat wrong,” the general said.

Military commanders regularly examine the borders of each area of responsibility, he explained, but he never requested responsibility for Israel.

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I can't believe this. Even on our forum, people are falling for this.

There is no question that this Nazi Jew-hating piece of filth was saying that unless Israel commits suicide, America's interests are threatened. His own words could not be any clearer.


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I can't believe this. Even on our forum, people are falling for this.

There is no question that this Nazi Jew-hating piece of filth was saying that unless Israel commits suicide, America's interests are threatened. His own words could not be any clearer.



Where did he say that Israel should do anything, let alone commit national suicide?

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Petraeus needs to get cancer, soon.

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I can't believe this. Even on our forum, people are falling for this.

There is no question that this Nazi Jew-hating piece of filth was saying that unless Israel commits suicide, America's interests are threatened. His own words could not be any clearer.



Where did he say that Israel should do anything, let alone commit national suicide?

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Are you serious? Since you obviously are, I'll explain it step by step.

The following quotes are from Petraeus' statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee on March 16, 2010. First, Petraeus explains:

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While this statement will describe in greater detail the dynamics and challenges in the sub-regions of the AOR, there are a number of cross-cutting issues that serve as major drivers of instability, inter-state tensions, and conflict. These factors can serve as root causes of instability or as obstacles to security.

Then Petraeus sets out to identify the "root causes of instability" and the "obstacles to security". The very first "root cause" that he identifies is:

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Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace.

You don't know what that means? You don't know what type of "peace" the United States and the rest of the world are demanding?

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The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR.

Here he makes clear that the failure to achieve this "comprehensive peace" endangers America's interests.

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Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas.

Until the "Palestinian question" is resolved, American interests and security are gravely imperilled. Because the main threat to America, according to Petraeus, is the "anti-American sentiment" among the Arabs. This can only be solved by dealing with the "perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel". What is the only way to change this perception? You don't know? Because Petraeus' number one concern is "Arab anger over the Palestinian question". His main goal is "the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples" and the "moderate regimes in the Arab world." All of these "moderate" regimes consistently demand one thing: that America force Israel to commit suicide.

This whole statement makes the creation of a PLO-Hamas terrorist state the main objective of American foreign policy. Unless Israel retreats to the pre-1967 Auschwitz borders that are only 10 miles wide, there will be Arab anger, instability and violence, and the "moderate" regimes will be unhappy. Israel is the main problem.

This Nazi pig does not say that Islam is the problem and that the Muslims would want to destroy America even if Israel did not exist. Nor does he says that America's unnecessary addiction to oil is the problem. Nor does he say that Muslim regimes like Saudi Arabia are financing Islamic terrorism and financing the spread of the Islamic cancer throughout the world. No, on the contrary, he calls Muslim terrorist regimes like Saudi Arabia and Egypt "moderates". He speaks about a "Palestinian" people that does not exist and that was created solely to destroy Israel. In fact, he makes the need to create a "Palestine" in Israel's Biblical heartland essential to America's interests and security.



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I see what you are saying.   I may have been misled by petraus's words.

Petraus seems to think that arab regimes will let America have free reign and do what it wants more often if they do not have the "Israel excuse."  Maybe he does not realize that it is only an excuse.  The arabs just don't want to cooperate with America or let America do what it wants (or advance its interests).  It is true that the populace will rebel if they are seen too friendly with America, but that also is an excuse.

Phony peace accords won't change this basic situation.  It may even be true that if America significantly weakens Israel and shifts the power alignment of the middle east, arab regimes will be more easily extorted in American political deals... But why should Israel be weakened and why is that in anyone's interest?  Petraus should look to weaken these Arab regimes who refuse to cooperate.

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Re: From Gen Petraues mouth Israel doesn't harm Iraq it's MARK PERRY FATAH
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 09:49:39 PM »
It needs to spread to his pancreas then. Soon.

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Re: From Gen Petraues mouth Israel doesn't harm Iraq it's MARK PERRY FATAH
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2010, 10:14:39 PM »
It needs to spread to his pancreas then. Soon.
It is not as if he would be replaced by a strong supporter of Israel.
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Re: From Gen Petraues mouth Israel doesn't harm Iraq it's MARK PERRY FATAH
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 12:05:00 AM »
Confusing code words like that are very common. "Comprehensive Middle East Peace" = Final Solution 2.


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Re: From Gen Petraues mouth Israel doesn't harm Iraq it's MARK PERRY FATAH
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 06:03:37 AM »
Confusing code words like that are very common. "Comprehensive Middle East Peace" = Final Solution 2.



I think I was also led to believe Petraus was a good guy.   Seems not true at all.  The rightwing sure loves him though.