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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2010, 03:56:16 PM »
re:  "This raises a red flag for me.  If he had simply said that he welcomes Jews to live in South Africa, then that wouldn't raise a red flag for me.  Do you see the difference?"

All things being equal, the difference is obvious.

However, there is a difference between accepting and supporting Jews who support his own unique national aspirations -- in this case being to live as loyal South African citizens practicing the Jewish faith, versus allowing the likes of Joseph Slovo, Chuck Schumer, Abe Foxman, "the Black He-Bro's", etc. to take up residence in his country, represent anti-Jewish interests, and subvert the country supporting the likes of Nelson Mandela and the ANC.

It is true that a Jew wishing to live outside of Eretz Yisrael is in violation of a Torah commandment, but one must keep in mind that South Africa was a nation long before Jews had the option to return to a State of Israel, and there was at all times a Jewish community living there.

Jews do not have an "automatic legal right" to live freely as Jews on every square inch of the Earth irrespective of borders, language, politics, and culture.

Only the clique controlling the State of Israel is crazy enough to allow outright traitors and the suicidal mentally ill to run wild and destroy from within their national spirit.

A sane Israel would have long ago arrested and deported the secularists and internationalists who ally themselves with any group calling for the destruction of the Jews, and then "cleaned house" of the Nazi Muslim population. 

Sane people don't have a problem stating from the outset what they demand in exchange for citizenship, and we should not equate such views to mean a hatred of Jews.

 

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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2010, 05:15:21 PM »
Ok so wait.
Is this man good or evil? I mean I still don't get it because usually White supremacists are bad. Can anyone here explain more about him?

White nationalists are racialists and just want whites to stay with whites.  Was this man a neonazi or did he just support whites in S. Africa?  Just because someone is a white nationalist does not mean that they hate Jews, they just want religions and races to just stay with their own.
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An Israeli flag has been put up on Eugene Terreblanche's farm fence, which reads something about Boer Genocide. Apparently about half an hr ago, a man rode up on a motorcycle, asked if he could place something on the fence, and put up the Star of David flag with inscription. Wonder which Jewish sect has sympathy for us?

This man must not have been a Jew-hater?
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2010, 06:21:56 PM »
We have to be careful what we read in the news today. We don't know of this guy was a nazi or like a chaim ben pesach of south africa. More research is needed to understand this guy. The benefit of the doubt should be in favor for most white south africans (not because of color but because of their more civilized way).

Black south africans, unfortunately, have not proven themselves to have that benefit of the doubt. I really wish I could look positively on all types of peoples and cultures, but unfortunately, the black south africans haven't given me that evidence that they can act civilized. A very small minority of them are decent hard working and don't deserve to be treated as the majority should be. But that's the way it goes. With white south africans, innocent until proven guilty and black south africans guilty until proven innocent and that's only because of culture and not genetics. Its because of their historical track record.
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2010, 08:16:17 PM »
Well I found this video on youtube of this White South African Man who talks about his view about him. I think he makes some good points, not only does he say that Eugène Terre'Blanche is a White Supremacist who had a lot of hateful views, but he also talks about Black South Africans who are no different then he was and how the Country is full of hypocrites. While I do admit that he died a horrible death, I'm still not sure if he was good or not. But anyways here is the link and just to warn some of you this video has some strong language:


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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2010, 09:02:14 PM »
Well I found this video on youtube of this White South African Man who talks about his view about him. I think he makes some good points, not only does he say that Eugène Terre'Blanche is a White Supremacist who had a lot of hateful views, but he also talks about Black South Africans who are no different then he was and how the Country is full of hypocrites. While I do admit that he died a horrible death, I'm still not sure if he was good or not. But anyways here is the link and just to warn some of you this video has some strong language:



Of course he had hateful views, his country was overrun by blacks as a result of leftists.

The whole thing is equivalent to Israel being created by Jews for Jews, then a bunch of Arabs immigrate to it, outnumber the Jews and then take over the country.

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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM »
Well I found this video on youtube of this White South African Man who talks about his view about him. I think he makes some good points, not only does he say that Eugène Terre'Blanche is a White Supremacist who had a lot of hateful views, but he also talks about Black South Africans who are no different then he was and how the Country is full of hypocrites. While I do admit that he died a horrible death, I'm still not sure if he was good or not. But anyways here is the link and just to warn some of you this video has some strong language:



Of course he had hateful views, his country was overrun by blacks as a result of leftists.

The whole thing is equivalent to Israel being created by Jews for Jews, then a bunch of Arabs immigrate to it, outnumber the Jews and then take over the country.


I disagree with your last statement there... South Africa is in no way comparable to Israel. Israel has 3000 years of Jewish history, a constant presence of Jews in the Holy Land, and the Torah which clearly says that Hashem gave the land to the Jews. To compare South Africa which was colonized by the Europeans for the purpose of empire building is a injustice against the Jewish people. This is akin to comparing Zionism to Apartied... There is absolutely no comparison between South Africa and Israel, none....

PS: Israel was not created by Jews for Jews... It was created by Hashem for Jews...


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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »
I've been searching the web for articles about this Eugene Terreblanche.  From what I've seen at pedofront and VNN, he was well liked by the wn's.  So that should tell you all something. 

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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2010, 10:24:47 PM »
Well I''m still not a fan of White supremacists just like I hate Black supremacists or any other group of people who act like this. Just because the Whites there have a hard life doesn't mean I have to support this guy.

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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2010, 10:44:23 PM »
Well I''m still not a fan of White supremacists just like I hate Black supremacists or any other group of people who act like this. Just because the Whites there have a hard life doesn't mean I have to support this guy.

I don't particularly care about this man, what I do care about is how South Africa got to be how it is and how the South African Whites will create a separate country, which I unapologetically support the creation of.

This means I am a "white supremacist" to the media and leftists. Were mistakes made? Yes, but regardless I will always support the South African Whites and by extension policies/people who offer them a brighter future.

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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2010, 05:32:31 AM »
 LISA JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ON VNN AND StørmFrønt LIKE HIM DOESN'T MEAN HE WAS NECESSARILY BAD .People some on StørmFrønt like guns and dogs so do i does that make guns and dogs evil
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2010, 08:12:56 AM »
LISA JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ON VNN AND StørmFrønt LIKE HIM DOESN'T MEAN HE WAS NECESSARILY BAD .People some on StørmFrønt like guns and dogs so do i does that make guns and dogs evil
And just because the AWB flag is "inspired" by the Nazi flag doesn't mean they are bad either ?!
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The way I see it- A white Nazi was killed by black savages whom he was foolish enough to employ in his ranch.

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2010, 08:27:42 AM »
LISA JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ON VNN AND StørmFrønt LIKE HIM DOESN'T MEAN HE WAS NECESSARILY BAD .People some on StørmFrønt like guns and dogs so do i does that make guns and dogs evil
And just because the AWB flag is "inspired" by the Nazi flag doesn't mean they are bad either ?!
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The way I see it- A white Nazi was killed by black savages whom he was foolish enough to employ in his ranch.
He once was asked about that and said they were 7 to oppose evil

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I am a religious studies minor. I have seen the number seven appear in much of my reading about Judaism. In his book, "Night," Elie Wiesel says, "seven times cursed and seven times sealed." What is the meaning, significance and origin of the number seven in Judaism?

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In the beginning... God created 7's.

Oh sure, He created light and dark, the heavens and earth, too.
But for reasons unknown to us, He seemed to have a special
affinity for the number 7.

The fact that the Torah begins with a verse containing 7 words
and 28 letters (divisible by 7) is hardly remarkable. But when
placed within the context of the overwhelming number of
associations in Judaism with '7', a fascinating tapestry begins
to unfurl. Let's take a closer look at this phenomenon.

Every spring, Jews around the world celebrate the holiday of
Shavuot --commemorating the most seminal event in the history of
mankind, God's revelation at Mount Sinai.

Shavuot. Curious name for this holiday, no? Shavuot means
"weeks," underscoring the 7-week period between Passover and
Shavuot in which we count each day (and week) in anticipation and
preparation for re-living the Sinai revelation. But why call it
Shavuot -- "weeks"? Why not call the holiday "Torah," or "Sinai,"
or "Commandments," or "Tablets." Of what significance is "Weeks"?

Time contains many different entities. Nearly all of them are
related to natural phenomena. Days, nights, months, seasons and
years are all directly determined, in some way, by the
constellations. There is one exception -- the week. The
formulation of a week seems to be totally arbitrary. Who needs
it? Let one day just follow the previous one. And why 7 days?

The concept of a week and its constitution of 7 days is one that
is strictly God-invented and human-adopted. While we may quibble
about creation -- how, when, by whom, why -- the world has
consensually agreed to the concept of a week. The Beatles were
wrong... there are only 7 days in a week. And whenever a week is
completed it is yet another reminder to mankind (or should be)
that God created the world in 7 days. (Only 6 days were required
to manufacture the physical structures, but the process was not
complete until the spiritual realm, Shabbat, was added.)

Call it the "week link."

Kabbalah teaches that 7 represents wholeness and completion.
After 7 days, the world was complete. There are 6 directions in
our world: north, south, east, west, up and down. Add to that the
place where you are, and you have a total of 7 points of
reference.

Shavuot, marking the emergence of the Jewish people into a
nation, by virtue of their receiving and accepting the Torah,
also marks a completion. Perhaps that is why the holiday is
called Shavuot, "Weeks." We want to identify this holiday as a
completion of the process of Jewish nationhood.

No one is certain why God chose the number "7" to signify
completion. All we can do is speculate, observe and marvel.

In honor of our own completion of the 49 day period leading up to
Shavuot, we present 49 allusions to the number "7" within
Judaism. How many of these do you recognize? How many more can
you add?

1. Shabbat is the 7th day of the week.
2. There are 7 weeks in the counting of the Omer before
Shavuot. (Leviticus 23:15)
3. In Israel, there are 7 days of Passover and Sukkot.
(Leviticus 23:6, 34)
4. Every 7th year, the land lays fallow during Shmita
(Sabbatical year). (Leviticus 25:4)
5. After 7 cycles of Shmita, we have a Jubilee year (Yovel).
(Leviticus 25:8)
6. When a close relative dies, we sit Shiva for 7 days.
7. On Sukkot we shake 7 species - 1 Lulav, 1 Esrog, 2 willows,
and 3 myrtles.
8. Yitro, the first real convert to Judaism, had 7 different
names, and 7 daughters (one who married Moses).
9. Moses was born and died on the same day - the 7th of Adar.
10. Our Sukkah huts are "visited" by 7 guests - Abraham, Isaac,
Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Joseph and David.
11. The Menorah in the Temple had 7 branches.
12. Achashvarosh, King of Persia during the miracle of Purim,
held a party for 7 days. (Esther 1:5)
13. There are 7 holidays in the Jewish year: Rosh Hashana, Yom
Kippur, Sukkot, Chanukah, Purim, Passover, and Shavuot.
14. In addition to the 613 Commandments, the Sages added 7
more.
15. There are 7 Noachide Laws pertaining to all humanity.
16. At every Jewish wedding, 7 blessings are recited (Sheva
Brachot).
17. Each Shabbat, 7 people are called to the Torah reading
(Aliyot).
18. The first verse in the Torah contains 7 words (and 28
letters).
19. Our Matriarch Leah had 7 children - six sons and one
daughter.
20. There were 7 days of preparation for the construction of
the Tabernacle in the desert. (Leviticus 8:35)
21. Traditionally, the bride circles the groom 7 times under
the Chuppah (wedding canopy).
22. We wind the Tefillin straps around the arm 7 times.
23. Moses was the 7th generation after Abraham.
24. Each plague in Egypt lasted 7 days.
25. In Pharaoh's dreams there were 7 cows and 7 stalks of
grain. (Genesis 41)
26. The Biblical contamination period typically lasts 7 days.
(Leviticus 13:4)
27. God created 7 levels of heaven. (Hence the expression, "I'm
in 7th heaven!")
28. On Shabbat and holidays, we recite 7 blessings in the
silent Amidah.
29. There are 7 special species of produce by which the Land of
Israel is praised: wheat, barley, grapes, pomegranates, figs,
olives, and dates. (Deut. 8:8)
30. The world has 7 continents.
31. The 7 weeks of the Omer correspond to the 7 "sefirot," the
7 behavior traits in which we serve God: kindness, strength,
beauty, triumph, splendor, foundation, and kingship.
32. Noah sent the dove and the raven out of the Ark for 7 days
to inspect the weather conditions. (Genesis 8:10)
33. 7 nations warred with Israel: Canaanites, Hittites,
Hivites, Amorites, Perizzites, Jebusites, and Girgashites.
34. On Yom Kippur, the High Priest sprinkled the blood in the
Temple 7 times. (Leviticus 16)
35. The Jewish New Year of Rosh Hashana occurs, surprisingly,
in the 7th month -- Tishrei. (Leviticus 23:24)
36. The Jewish calendar, largely lunar, has a cycle of
intercalation that contains 7 leap years during each 19-year
period.
37. There are 7 notes on the musical scale.
38. A Kohen (priest) should participate in the burial of 7
relatives: father, mother, sister, brother, son, daughter, and
spouse. (Leviticus 21:2)
39. We dance 7 circles (hakafot) on the holiday of Simchat
Torah.
40. The smallest allowable dimension of a Sukkah is 7 by 7
handbreadths.
41. The world has 7 seas.
42. Joshua led the Jewish People around the walls of Jericho 7
times before the walls fell. (Joshua 6:15)
43. Jacob worked for Laban for 7 years (twice) in order to
marry his daughters. (Genesis 29:27)
44. The Holy Temple contained 7 gates of entry.
45. We recite 7 blessings every day before and after the
"Shema" -- 3 in the morning and 4 at night.
46. The Talmud lists 7 female prophets: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah,
Hannah, Avigail, Chuldah, and Esther.
47. A Jewish servant regains freedom in the 7th year. (Exodus
21:2)
48. We conclude our Yom Kippur prayers by proclaiming7 times,
"The Lord is God!"
49. A Jewish wedding is followed by 7 days of celebration
(Sheva Brachot).
With blessings from Jerusalem,

Rabbi Shraga Simmons
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2010, 08:31:41 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2010, 08:32:33 AM »
Mord, are you kidding me or what ? Do you think it is a coincidence that their flag so resembles the Nazi flag ?

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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2010, 08:37:28 AM »
Mord, are you kidding me or what ? Do you think it is a coincidence that their flag so resembles the Nazi flag ?
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An Israeli flag has been put up on Eugene Terreblanche's farm fence, which reads something about Boer Genocide. Apparently about half an hr ago, a man rode up on a motorcycle, asked if he could place something on the fence, and put up the Star of David flag with inscription. Wonder which Jewish sect has sympathy for us?
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2010, 09:08:19 AM »
Mord why don't you say what is your opinion ?

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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2010, 09:15:21 AM »
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Yes, why cant people see that this person was murdered?
Obviously he was not 'supreme'. He was a minority.
Atlas Shrugs is covering the genocide of whites in S.A.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/04/white-genocide-in-south-africa.html
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2010, 09:15:29 AM »
Mord why don't you say what is your opinion ?
My opinion is the guy wanted a white enclave where white people could live and prosper without crime
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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2010, 09:16:38 AM »
I dont know, the thing here I see, that it is not racist when blacks do it.
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Re: White supremacist leader killed in South Africa
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2010, 09:24:10 AM »
He was not murdered. He was killed; G-D bless the killers of this Hitler.

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« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2010, 09:26:14 AM »
I dont know, the thing here I see, that it is not racist when blacks do it.
good article in Atlas shrugged here you have a video of nelson mandela with him is a 'Jewish'guy ronnie kasrils singing kill whites  

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« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2010, 10:05:12 AM »
Mord it's videos like that, that cause some people to believe Jews and whites are eternal enemies. It's really frustrating that so many Jews do tend to go along with left wing policies like that because I think it feeds into anti-Semitism. I have to qualify that statement however by saying that anti-Semites will hate Jews regardless of how righteous they are.

If the guy mentioned in this thread was a Nazi, then I can't support him personally, because I think to be a Nazi is of course to be evil. However the whites in South Africa do have a genuine problem and I do care about their plight.

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« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2010, 10:07:10 AM »
Mord it's videos like that, that cause some people to believe Jews and whites are eternal enemies. It's really frustrating that so many Jews do tend to go along with left wing policies like that because I think it feeds into anti-Semitism. I have to qualify that statement however by saying that anti-Semites will hate Jews regardless of how righteous they are.

If the guy mentioned in this thread was a Nazi, then I can't support him personally, because I think to be a Nazi is of course to be evil. However the whites in South Africa do have a genuine problem and I do care about their plight.
True i agree that guy kasrils also wants Israel destroyed
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