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What are Serbs to do?
Novakovic:
--- Quote from: voo-yo on April 09, 2010, 01:56:12 PM ---Ok, so you think we should start from changing our economy?
I also think we should work harder, but what would be the point of having a developed economy if there's no one to enjoy the benefits of it? Do you know that Serbs are dying out as a people? And don't tell me there are no children because we are poor. The poorest countries have the highest birthrate, and the richest the lowest.
If that's the SRS plan, I don't see how it's gonna save Serbia.
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I did not define the whole plans of SRS. I just said something about their economical agenda.
You are right that people should work harder. That's why the SRS wants to protect the domestic production from foreign products. Serbian farmers for example are not motivated to work harder, because the state is importing foreign goods. If Serbia is importing beans and pork, while you have enough domestic products at home, then something is extremely wrong with the system. They are doing that on purpose in order to harm the Serbian industry.
The NATO is not bombing Serbia's industry like in 1999; today they have puppets within the Serbian government, through which they are ruing Serbia's standard with an insane policy.
The poorest countries have the highest birthrate. But they can not feed their children, because of shortage of good food. So many of those children die. So increasing the standard will contribute to healthier birthrates..
The Serbian Radical Party is a party that stands for family values!
Increasing the birthrate is a high priority of the SRS! The current media, which is flagrant anti-SRS, is propagating an immoral life style, which leads to things like low birthrates! SRS wants to bring old Serbian values and traditions back into the society, those values were banned from the society by the communists. SRS is also a party that wants to co-operate with the Church as much as possible.
I do not see other parties which can harm the current regime as the SRS.
voo-yo:
--- Quote from: Novakovic on April 09, 2010, 02:18:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: voo-yo on April 09, 2010, 01:56:12 PM ---Ok, so you think we should start from changing our economy?
I also think we should work harder, but what would be the point of having a developed economy if there's no one to enjoy the benefits of it? Do you know that Serbs are dying out as a people? And don't tell me there are no children because we are poor. The poorest countries have the highest birthrate, and the richest the lowest.
If that's the SRS plan, I don't see how it's gonna save Serbia.
--- End quote ---
I did not define the whole plans of SRS. I just said something about their economical agenda.
You are right that people should work harder. That's why the SRS wants to protect the domestic production from foreign products. Serbian farmers for example are not motivated to work harder, because the state is importing foreign goods. If Serbia is importing beans and pork, while you have enough domestic products at home, then something is extremely wrong with the system. They are doing that on purpose in order to harm the Serbian industry.
The NATO is not bombing Serbia's industry like in 1999; today they have puppets within the Serbian government, through which they are ruing Serbia's standard with an insane policy.
The poorest countries have the highest birthrate. But they can not feed their children, because of shortage of good food. So many of those children die. So increasing the standard will contribute to healthier birthrates..
The Serbian Radical Party is a party that stands for family values!
Increasing the birthrate is a high priority of the SRS! The current media, which is flagrant anti-SRS, is propagating an immoral life style, which leads to things like low birthrates! SRS wants to bring old Serbian values and traditions back into the society, those values were banned from the society by the communists. SRS is also a party that wants to co-operate with the Church as much as possible.
I do not see other parties which can harm the current regime as the SRS.
--- End quote ---
Increasing the standard of living won't contribute to healthier birthrates. The richest Serbs have less children than the poor.
Also, I've never, ever heard SRS people talk about bringing "traditional values" back. Could you show me where they are talking about it? I heard Seselj once saying how family is a personal thing, and that he won't convince anyone of having more children.
Novakovic:
--- Quote from: voo-yo on April 09, 2010, 02:38:12 PM ---Increasing the standard of living won't contribute to healthier birthrates. The richest Serbs have less children than the poor.
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Like I said most the extreme rich Serbs are members of old communist families, who are have nothing to do with religion or culture. You are right that money is not always the problem. I agree with you on that. But it is also the immorality which leads to these kind of problems. When did the Serbs had high birth rates? Well during the Tsars and the kings! We need again patriotic intellectuals who will lead our country.
Of course has the standard to a certain extent influence on birthrates..
--- Quote from: voo-yo on April 09, 2010, 02:38:12 PM ---Also, I've never, ever heard SRS people talk about bringing "traditional values" back. Could you show me where they are talking about it?
--- End quote ---
Within the SRS you have people who are traditionalists. If the SRS would be in charge, the pro-Orthodox and pro-traditionalist organizations would be able to convince the government to implement such proposals. Via pro-Orthodox organizations people, like Srpske Dveri, you can lobby for the implementation of proposals on traditional values. SRS is prepared to take such a proposal seriously.
With SRS in charge the restore of Serbia's old values will have more change..
What other party will try to stop immorality and the madness?
I do not trust the other parties!
--- Quote from: voo-yo on April 09, 2010, 02:38:12 PM ---I heard Seselj once saying how family is a personal thing, and that he won't convince anyone of having more children.
--- End quote ---
Well it is up to the people to decide what they will do. But patriotic and nationalistic organizations will earlier stimulate high birthrates than pro-EU and gay oriented organizations.
voo-yo:
--- Quote ---Like I said most the extreme rich Serbs are members of old communist families, who are have nothing to do with religion or culture. You are right that money is not always the problem. I agree with you on that. But it is also the immorality which leads to these kind of problems. When did the Serbs had high birth rates? Well during the Tsars and the kings! We need again patriotic intellectuals who will lead our country.
Of course has the standard to a certain extent influence on birthrates..
--- End quote ---
Finally you've realised what the core of the problem is. Immorality, not standard of living.
--- Quote ---Within the SRS you have people who are traditionalists. If the SRS would be in charge, the pro-Orthodox and pro-traditionalist organizations would be able to convince the government to implement such proposals. Via pro-Orthodox organizations people, like Srpske Dveri, you can lobby for the implementation of proposals on traditional values. SRS is prepared to take such a proposal seriously.
With SRS in charge the restore of Serbia's old values will have more change..
What other party will try to stop immorality and the madness?
I do not trust the other parties!
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---Well it is up to the people to decide what they will do. But patriotic and nationalistic organizations will earlier stimulate high birthrates than pro-EU and gay oriented organizations.
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You are talking out of your head. It's wishful thinking. There is no evidence SRS would do anything about it. I want to see it in their program, I want them to say it. It didn't happen so far.
Novakovic:
SRS is pro-Orthodox, but they are not that hardcore traditionalists like you want them to be. SRS is not perfect, but at least on political and economical level they are far more better than the other parties. Yes the immorality is the problem. You have several kinds of immoralities. Betraying your own nation is also a form of immorality. That immorality leads to other immortalities.
Just eliminate the influence of the national traitors who are on the top of the country and that will be a great progress!
I understand you.
You want that the Serbs become again spiritual moral. That is something for the Church. SRS can not replace the role of the Church. SRS is a political party and through lobbying the party can increase the influence of the Church, but that is all.
It is good that you also care about the morality, but we must stay realistic.
We must admit that you can not turn people into something else that fast!
Becoming a moral society requires a process.
If traitors would stop governing the country, people will be more proud of their land! By installing SRS you will get nationalists in charge and those people have more pride than traitors. If we have proud and responsible politicians, then the people would also be more proud.
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