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Ben m:
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--- Quote from: normal atheist ---when i am talking about inferiority of the race i meant two thing
1) the average iq of the race's members.this is the key to the advancment of humankind in all areas.
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--- Quote from: normal atheist --- have you been to detroit lately? to the middle east (not israel)? to africa?
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Though that question was not quite for me...
I think that taking only the average iq of the race’s members is misleading, because there are more factors that affect the iq of people, of which, of very high importance is the education in the region (which also depends on many factors). I think a more proper result would be if you compare, in a developped country, people who had the same education, blacks & whites.
And by the way, if a white man converts to Islam, I don’t think that makes white men as inferior as Islam and muslims. Then why would people indoctrinated into Islam in the middle-east be genetically inferior to those from developed countries that were not indoctrinated in Islam?
--- Quote ---i prefer to rely on equation than to rely on some 2000 years old books beacuse equations never lie.
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Besides the fact that the key point is not “science vs ‘2000 years old books’”, even the science you learnt and believe in is not all “equations” (that is, as clear as that). There a lot of theories, which by definition are the reasoning of men and therefore may be false.
You may know that in history there were a lot of theories, and the “science” of those days (reasoning, their capability and possibility to find information, the “evidences” they found) was many times, in many places, faulty.
So how do you know that all the things you learn will stand the test of time and will not be disproved in the future (when knowledge and technology will greatly improve, and with them, our possibility to better understand the world - get evidences, make tests, etc.)? Did you ever think that all you learnt may not be 100% correct?
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1) i based my argument on a reaserch on the united states pouplations.
2)i agree with you that what i learnt is not 100% correct.but unless someone will come with a better theory and better equations,this is the only thing we have.and about this issue,i admitt that you successeded in converting me back into belevieng in G-d.thank you everybody.
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i have to agree, Even with affirmative action blacks have lower IQ'S in the USA and the UK. There is not one sucessful black country, not one, not one trace of history that shows they even had a glimmer of a golden period.
now as i believe in G-d, like you should normal atheist, you would find that through their evil culture originally, it has lead to blacks having less iq over the years. But originally i reckon they had equal iq to the whites and asians.
But even very poor russians etc have higher iq than USA blacks, which the politocally correct brigade cannot answer.
I agree with alot of your points atheist, aprt from your atheism. I hope you become a religous jew, and this is from a christian.
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You make generalizations... There are many very intelligent Blacks in the USA which would make poor Russians blush... The problem with Blacks in America has been that they have for almost 100 years been given substandard education. While this may be a cultural problem with Africans it is something which can change over time.
There is nothing gained by being rigidly racist. As I said before, I work with people from all over the world and generally there is not much difference between peoples.
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i fisagree, blacks have been persecuted far less than the irish, gypsies, and the jews. All have higher iq, all more sucessful
Take the uk, we had signs for rented houses saying "no dogs, no blacks and no irish". yet look how successful they are.
Of course they are exceptions, they are good looking black women/men ocassionally, but on the whole they are pretty woeful.lets be honest here.
Are their good blacks, of course, pastor manning is one for example. But Purely on the evidence all over the world, though thoudands of years, there has never been a sucessful black country, not one.
Look at the chinese,indians and japanese, they produce some brillant peple, and have had/are having golden periods. In particularly with the japenise/chinese, they are equal if not debatably more intelligent than whites.
Im afraid muman, theres no way you can sugar coat it, thet white man cant be blamed for everyrthing, as i highlighted they have been white ethnic groups that have been just as/far wprse persecution than blacks in modern history. They rose above it.
I challenge you to show me in the world a desirable black city, whether it be in uk/us or in africa/jamacia.
Take the uk/US, since the 60's they have had literally trillions spent on them. No other race has near that, the chinese havent, yet even then the chinese destroy them in iq tests.
i think you are doing a very rightous moral thing mormon, and i wish i could agree with you but i cant.
However, what i will say, is that G-d created everyone equal. G-d is not racist, and blacks had the same iq as whites and other races, that i am sure of. But for whatever reason(my theory is micro evolution due to evi, culture set in) blacks have over the years lowered their iq.
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well i can give you great zimbabwe as an example but this is only one primitive city.
Rubystars:
Chinese are smart people, blacks are not. That's why Chinese destroy blacks in IQ tests. Now if they would just stop putting lead in kid's toys and poison in dog food.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 13, 2010, 12:27:18 PM ---Chinese are smart people, blacks are not. That's why Chinese destroy blacks in IQ tests. Now if they would just stop putting lead in kid's toys and poison in dog food.
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And as I posted yesterday some of them go on killing sprees and kill innocent children... Smart but evil...
Ben m:
--- Quote from: muman613 on May 13, 2010, 12:30:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 13, 2010, 12:27:18 PM ---Chinese are smart people, blacks are not. That's why Chinese destroy blacks in IQ tests. Now if they would just stop putting lead in kid's toys and poison in dog food.
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And as I posted yesterday some of them go on killing sprees and kill innocent children... Smart but evil...
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good and evil is not the question.the question is what we need to do in order to ensure our survival.we need a new world order and blacks and muslims are not part of it.
Rubystars:
Normal atheist if you support the New World Order agenda you might as well be saying to me that you're a Satanist. If you mean something else you shouldn't use that terminology. Do you want the whole world to be one people, one religion, one country?
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