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Who won WWII?
« on: May 04, 2010, 03:44:16 PM »
Which of the Allies do you think contributed most to the WWII victory?

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Re: Who won WWII?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 03:46:02 PM »
The USSR

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 05:19:53 PM »
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Re: Who won WWII?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 05:38:22 PM »
I'd say: USA won "the war" while USSR (communist/marxism/bolshevism) won "the peace".

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 06:39:54 PM »
Daniele.from.Italy:  "I'd say: USA won "the war" while USSR (communist/marxism/bolshevism) won "the peace"."

Hear! Hear!

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 07:22:01 PM »
p.s.

The Red Army of the U.S.S.R crushed Hitler's Wermacht and turned Goering's planned two week conquest of the USSR, "Operation Barbarossa", into a chaotic retreat all the way to Berlin.

Had Hitler taken the Soviet Union as he had planned, the likelihood of our winning WWII would have been greatly diminished.

Had Hitler NOT opened a second European front to Germany's east, his forces would have been fully intact, formidable, and resistant to invasion, and the cost of victory to the U.S.A would have been enormous.

Hitler would have been unopposed master of the entire European land mass.

Of course, it's usually at this point that all the members who learned history from a John Wayne movie will immediately begin attacking me as a "commie" or "pinko" or "liar" etc...

So...All who don't know history, go on and have your fun.  I could care less.

The FACTS surrounding the Allied victory in WWII bear no relationship whatsoever to the evil Soviet Communist government, its political philosophy, and its policies.

It stands duly noted that the USSR was INVADED by Nazi Germany, suffered almost incalculable losses in men and materials, came very close to being defeated.

Yes...Stalin at first signed a pact with Hitler -- and so forth and so on....we all know the story -- which again has no bearing on the fact that the USSR defeated Hitler on the European continent and chased the Wehrmacht back all the way to Berlin.

We in the U.S.A. suffered no such invasion of our home territory.

Facts are facts, and the fact is that it was the efforts of the USSR which turned the tide of the European War.

p.s.s. -- another 'inconvenient truth' --

It was Prime Minister Andrei Gromyko of the USSR who gave an impassioned plea at the UN podium in 1948 for the world's official recognition and establishment of The State of Israel, casting a "da " vote for the USSR!

He stated that the USSR recognized Zionism to be the legitimate national liberation movement of the Jewish People, and must therefore be accorded legal legitimacy as  a genuine "peoples' struggle in the world fight against imperialism, colonialism, and anti-Semitism.



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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 08:21:30 PM »
Russia had a few things going for it that would eventually doom the Nazi war effort against it. Size, weather and the amount and a population that the government considered expendable that could be used to wear the enemy down. War against Russia was like shooting fish in a barrel. The barrel was big and the fish plentiful costing Germany casualties and supplies they could ill afford to loose. Russia paid a heavy price but the price they paid was to save their own neck. In the end I believe America could have won the war on its own between Germany and Japan at great cost however Russia could never have survived at any price without America and England in the picture
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 01:16:04 AM »
The Serbs and the Russians contributed most to the WWII victory..
Because of the Serbian rebellion at the Balkans, the Nazi invasion of Russia became delayed.

And during the 90s the Serbs prevented again a Western invasion of Russia.
The West thought that Yugoslavia [a pro-Russian country] would easily collapse into pro-EU marionette countries. The Serbs who constituted 51% of Yugoslavia's populations tried to prevent the collapse of Yugoslavia. The NATO was 10 years engaged in the Balkan conflicts and could not focus on Russia during the 90s, when Russia was weak. 
Those 10 years were necessary to bring someone like Putin in charge of Russia.
I hope that Putin will very soon help the Serbs to re-take Kosovo and Krajina.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 01:26:05 AM »
He stated that the USSR recognized Zionism to be the legitimate national liberation movement of the Jewish People, and must therefore be accorded legal legitimacy as  a genuine "peoples' struggle in the world fight against imperialism, colonialism, and anti-Semitism.

Correct! The USSR authorities also allowed a Jewish autonomous region in Russia!

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 05:18:30 AM »
Anti semites until Israel won the war for independence
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 05:36:56 AM »
It was a combined effort, the USSR stopped the advance and bogged them down, but the US entering the war tipped the balance decisively in our favour.  But if we Brits allowed the Nazis to invade the UK, we'd have had no base from which to attack on D-Day.  The French... well... they made croissants for our soldiers after the was over.  :::D

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 06:35:18 AM »
I'd say it was the USA and Russia in first place and UK in second. Sorry to say that, but France in my opinion was too much a Nazi sympathizer to resist.

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Re: Who won WWII?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 07:50:20 AM »
USSR, definitely.
Although, America contributed a lot in war materials and they tipped the balance, as someone said.

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 11:42:47 AM »
Without the Russians and the Americans, Oswald Mosley would have become the Reichsprotektor England.

Without the Russians, the Americans would have been raped in Western Europe (after being
almost destroyed in the Battle of the Bulge) and sent back home in thousands making
them regret they entered the European front.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 11:55:22 AM »
The Serbs and the Russians contributed most to the WWII victory..
Because of the Serbian rebellion at the Balkans, the Nazi invasion of Russia became delayed.


The Serbs did contribute a lot but I wouldn't say they contributed the most along with the Russians.

I hope that Putin will very soon help the Serbs to re-take Kosovo and Krajina.

Let's hope Putin dies of cancer and that Russia would be buried under the Fire of Jihad (not Serbia though).

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 12:08:07 PM »
Serbs were the best resistance fighters in WWII.

Within five months of invading USSR, the nazis had entrapped St. Petersburg and were knocking at the doors of Moscow. If Russia then had the leaders like Yeltsin or Gorbachev, then in-spite of all the British and American help, the nazis certainly would have overrun Siberia within one year and met with Japanese at Vladivostok.
   
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 12:22:08 PM »
It was a combined effort, the USSR stopped the advance and bogged them down, but the US entering the war tipped the balance decisively in our favour.  But if we Brits allowed the Nazis to invade the UK, we'd have had no base from which to attack on D-Day.  The French... well... they made croissants for our soldiers after the was over.  :::D

the germans were already retreating on the eastern front by the time Dday happened

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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2010, 01:04:36 PM »
who won world war 2? pretty the muslims,after the war the liberals took over the western war so basically we replaced hitler type nazism with liberal and musulman nazism.
enemies:negroes,musulmans and commies/liberals.
alleis:israel,united states,canada,european union,greater serbia,russia,australia and new zealand and japan/south korea and india.togheter we maight win this war.

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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 01:43:43 PM »
who won world war 2? pretty the muslims,after the war the liberals took over the western war so basically we replaced hitler type nazism with liberal and musulman nazism.

Yes, muslamics snatched the baton from the hands of the dead nazi and under the roaring cheers of the liberal crowds, started running speedily in the final lap of the relay race. That is why WWIII has been already named.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2010, 01:54:32 PM »
who won world war 2? pretty the muslims,after the war the liberals took over the western war so basically we replaced hitler type nazism with liberal and musulman nazism.

Yes, muslamics snatched the baton from the hands of the dead nazi and under the roaring cheers of the liberal crowds, started running speedily in the final lap of the relay race. That is why WWIII has been already named.
this is why wold war 3 and 4 has been named,the first will be agianst the muslim world and the second against the negroes and commies/liberlas.i very pessimistic about the our chances about the liberla/commie and negore threats but i hope it will turn in the best way.
enemies:negroes,musulmans and commies/liberals.
alleis:israel,united states,canada,european union,greater serbia,russia,australia and new zealand and japan/south korea and india.togheter we maight win this war.

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 02:15:43 PM »
The Serbs did contribute a lot but I wouldn't say they contributed the most along with the Russians.

Well the Serbs and Russians did not have much choice.
The Nazis tried to invade their lands and to exterminate them or to make slaves of them. In order to survive the Russians and the Serbs needed to fight Nazism.
I do not know what other nations gave also so many lives for the defeat of Nazism during WW2, like the Serbs and Russians? Much more Serbs and Russians died during WW2 than Western people. England and the US were not invaded by Nazis, in contrast to Serbia and Russia.

If it is true that so many Serbs and Russians died during the Nazi period, than it is logical to assume that those nations contributed the most. 

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Re: Who won WWII?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 02:40:47 PM »
who won world war 2? pretty the muslims,after the war the liberals took over the western war so basically we replaced hitler type nazism with liberal and musulman nazism.

Yes, muslamics snatched the baton from the hands of the dead nazi and under the roaring cheers of the liberal crowds, started running speedily in the final lap of the relay race. That is why WWIII has been already named.
this is why wold war 3 and 4 has been named,the first will be agianst the muslim world and the second against the negroes and commies/liberlas.i very pessimistic about the our chances about the liberla/commie and negore threats but i hope it will turn in the best way.

From what do you come to this conclusion? Most Jewish belief is that there will be one final battle against all evil in the world and all those who are against Israel will be destroyed. The righteous of the nations will survive this final battle...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 03:02:42 PM »
Unfortunately it is suspected that only three and half nations will be unexpectedly on the side of Israel. Obviously it will be looking like a most hopeless situation.

Kindly forgive me, as I can not say who and why.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 03:19:58 PM »
The Russians took the most casualties and also inflicted the most damage, but the Americans are the top contributor to the war in terms of arms production, supply, naval and air superiority, and without them Russia would surely have lost the war: Russia would have lost the war if:
America and Britain hadn't blockaded German shipping, had America not confronted Japan- then Japan would have joined the Attack on the USSR, had America not sent supply convoys to Russia when they were desperate, had Germany not keep reserves in France to guard against American invasion.

On the other hand, without Russia in the war, America could still have won it, if not the hard way, then the nuclear way.

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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 04:07:43 PM »
Without the timely report of Richard Sorge, it could have never occurred to the mind of Stalin that Japan in no case was going to attack Siberia.

If Stalin had used little of mind he would have shifted the forces from Siberia to Moscow much earlier and in due time.   
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