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Offline Nic Brookes

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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2007, 10:36:20 AM »
Me too. I wonder what Yacov will say to this...
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2007, 10:39:15 AM »
Well, judging from the listed reasons why he was banned, I voted for the former.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2007, 12:24:29 PM »
Dissenter, keep at it.  I loved your posts on this topic.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2007, 01:28:36 PM »
Quote from: Dissenter on May 13, 2007, 10:20:15 AM
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With all due respect, you have 24 posts and you are not an asset to this movement as much as Yacov.

It's not the number but the quality. I'd rather have a few good ones than a plethora which make me look foolish.

Also, I've been a supporter of JTF for many years, mostly financial. That's how I'm so familiar with the organization.

I live in Manhattan and I distinctly remember the evening in 1993 when I was channel-surfing through the public access stations and came on Sarah and Yosef. It changed my life. Chaim was still on parole then, but he came on the show soon afterward and there was no stopping me from supporting JTF.

Yacov is dedicated but he's making a lot of bad decisions, which I'm pointing out to him for everybody's good, including his own.

Guess what? It's not that hard to put up a forum on the internet. But it is hard to make it something which people will admire when they come to it. And people won't admire endless, inane questions; obsessive discussions of racial history; arbitrary rules and bannings; and - last but not least - the toleration of obvious trolls like Fruit, whose only purpose is stink up the place with black organs and other pornography, as well as alarming threats of physical violence against helpless victims.


Yacov started this forum after defending JTF on various forums for years. That's more than anyone else did. Leave him alone.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2007, 02:29:25 PM »
FOTL is going to screw up this forum even more and no one will want to join. This is a bad move Yacov.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2007, 02:32:31 PM »
If he starts with his White women bashing I will dicredit all his posts. Sorry, FOTL is mentally unballanced and has contibuted nothing to this forum except his rants against White women. Sorry, I dont come on here to read about some guy being sexually frustrated.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2007, 02:40:26 PM »
Guys there's more than one way to do this. Consider offering him a probation with conditions, or limiting his number of daily posts, or only giving him access to certain parts of the forum. I don't know, let's be creative so the whole organization doesn't have to be divided over so petty an issue.

Those of you mods threatening to leave over this, I think are going too far. Keep the real goals of our movement in sight please.

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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2007, 02:49:30 PM »
Not that he has posted or been active since being unbanned
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2007, 02:59:07 PM »
Quote from: lubab on May 13, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
Guys there's more than one way to do this. Consider offering him a probation with conditions, or limiting his number of daily posts, or only giving him access to certain parts of the forum. I don't know, let's be creative so the whole organization doesn't have to be divided over so petty an issue.

Those of you mods threatening to leave over this, I think are going too far. Keep the real goals of our movement in sight please.



It's because I keep the goals of the movement in focus I am pursuing this. This is absolutely insane. What difference does it make what he posts now. We all know what he is about, is this someone we want associated with this organisation? Let me ask you, if he started spouting his demented ideas in a synagogue or a church what would happen? I am saying that I don't want anything to do with a forum that is a circus sideshow. I am a very busy person, I spend X amount of time supporting things I believe in. By letting this character back on the forum it is ensuring that I will have to WASTE time going over his often VERY LONG rants. This isn't a forum worth a damn if such trash is tolerated. It's not a threat, it's how I genuinely feel.   
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2007, 03:18:15 PM »
Fine, make Yacov take the responsibility to read all of Fruit's posts to make sure they don't violate the rules. 
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2007, 03:20:26 PM »
Quote from: Allen-T on May 13, 2007, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: lubab on May 13, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
Guys there's more than one way to do this. Consider offering him a probation with conditions, or limiting his number of daily posts, or only giving him access to certain parts of the forum. I don't know, let's be creative so the whole organization doesn't have to be divided over so petty an issue.

Those of you mods threatening to leave over this, I think are going too far. Keep the real goals of our movement in sight please.



It's because I keep the goals of the movement in focus I am pursuing this. This is absolutely insane. What difference does it make what he posts now. We all know what he is about, is this someone we want associated with this organization? Let me ask you, if he started spouting his demented ideas in a synagogue or a church what would happen? I am saying that I don't want anything to do with a forum that is a circus sideshow. I am a very busy person, I spend X amount of time supporting things I believe in. By letting this character back on the forum it is ensuring that I will have to WASTE time going over his often VERY LONG rants. This isn't a forum worth a damn if such trash is tolerated. It's not a threat, it's how I genuinely feel.   

I know how you feel Allen-T. You have put a lot of time and effort into JTF. Having FOTL back will ruin the forum. It will drive away posters and potential members. It was amusing at first, but my G-d. Over and over again with White women. It gets to the point where it drives you insane. Two or three pages of diatribe against Caucasian women. FOTL needs to get a life or go into a mental asylum. I'm being honest. I really do think he is insane. He seems to me that he will be the U.K.'s version of Ted Bundy very soon. Again Yakov over half of this forum does not want him back. Please take that into consideration.
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Offline jdl4ever

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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2007, 03:22:34 PM »
Yeah, seems that the majority doesn't want him back, so you should re ban him to make everyone happy. 
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2007, 04:03:32 PM »
FOTL contributes to nothing except bordem for me...Yaacov..come on...ban him again, please...he's not funny..there is nothing good about what he has to say...just get rid of him.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2007, 04:15:09 PM »
Quote from: jdl4ever on May 13, 2007, 03:18:15 PM
Fine, make Yacov take the responsibility to read all of Fruit's posts to make sure they don't violate the rules. 

What? Yacov is the one who unbanned him! Yacov clearly has a set of rules I, Jeffguy,ftf and Jimmy disagree with. So what would that accomplish?     
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2007, 04:19:39 PM »
I would like to suggest that everyone in favor of bringing him back go read Eldridge Cleaver's book Soul On Ice. He was the Minister of Information of The Black Panter Party who did time in jail for TNB. He writes in his book about the psychology of the black man in regards to raping white women. He was a rapist. If you read this book you will see that FOTL's writings have this psychology stamped all over them. He is a [censored].
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2007, 04:22:28 PM »
Allen, add me to that list.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2007, 04:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 13, 2007, 03:25:42 AM
I just sent Fruit the following E-mail. I made his ban expire. He is no longer banned.

This is Yacov Menashe.

I didn't approve of your banning. It was jeffguy that did it. I want to let you back on JTF. But you have to promise that you will respect white women.

Yacov Menashe.

Wow. Yacov, this was very disrespectful to me. I am in shock. I have always defended you and your decisions.

Now, if I tell someone to behave, what effect will it have? Will they take me seriously?


PLEASE, moderators... DON'T LEAVE. Please... hang in there until we work this out.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2007, 04:33:54 PM »
Quote from: jeffguy on May 13, 2007, 04:30:02 PM
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 13, 2007, 03:25:42 AM
I just sent Fruit the following E-mail. I made his ban expire. He is no longer banned.

This is Yacov Menashe.

I didn't approve of your banning. It was jeffguy that did it. I want to let you back on JTF. But you have to promise that you will respect white women.

Yacov Menashe.

Wow. Yacov, this was very disrespectful to me. I am in shock. I have always defended you and your decisions.

Now, if I tell someone to behave, what effect will it have? Will they take me seriously?


PLEASE, moderators... DON'T LEAVE. Please... hang in there until we work this out.

It does seem like Yacov is siding with FOTL and pointing the finger of blame at jeffguy. Please reban FOTL, Yacov.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2007, 04:44:57 PM »
Guys,

Count me in that minority. Like Fruit is really gonna murder white women? Get real. It's Yacov's board and he can do whatever he wants. I found that out the hard way, and kept my mouth shut from then on out when Chaim said he agreed with him. This forum belongs to Yacov and Chaim, not any of us.

I really don't see why there is so much hatred of Fruit, who is obviously harmless, when everyone here has indulged people who really are malevolent (like Hidden Author, Imerica, and others) for way too long.

Give him a chance and see what he does now. As has already been pointed out, he hasn't even posted since being unbanned. Geez Louise.

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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2007, 06:14:22 PM »
Quote from: Chaimfan on May 13, 2007, 04:44:57 PM
Guys,

Count me in that minority. Like Fruit is really gonna murder white women? Get real. It's Yacov's board and he can do whatever he wants. I found that out the hard way, and kept my mouth shut from then on out when Chaim said he agreed with him. This forum belongs to Yacov and Chaim, not any of us.

I really don't see why there is so much hatred of Fruit, who is obviously harmless, when everyone here has indulged people who really are malevolent (like Hidden Author, Imerica, and others) for way too long.

Give him a chance and see what he does now. As has already been pointed out, he hasn't even posted since being unbanned. Geez Louise.

Chaimfan

Sorry Chaimfan, but this forum does NOT belong to Yacov and Chaim. This forum belongs to all of us. I think we all know that Chaim would be the first to tell us that.

I spoke to Chaim about this. He will address this issue on the Ask JTF program, G-d willing. Chaim was not at all happy about what happened here.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2007, 07:44:13 PM »
Quote from: jsullivan on May 13, 2007, 05:23:22 AM
Yacov, I completely disagree with your decision. The poster in question wrote things that should be intolerable on ANY forum.

I told Chaim on Friday that he was banned, and Chaim agreed with the decision. Jeffguy took action that I should have taken a long time ago.

The person who should come back is Yephora. She left because she could not stand Fruit's vulgarity and hatred of whites and Christians. She was a true quality poster.

Of course.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2007, 10:40:09 PM »
I am still waiting for Yacov to get on here and respond to any one of the many posts on this thread, especially Dissenter's.
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Re: I un-banned Fruit of Thy Loins!
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2007, 11:59:55 PM »
Quote from: Hail Columbia on May 13, 2007, 08:39:46 AM
Why unban him?  He's not going to post anything except for crap about white women with black men.  That's all that he really does.  He's not cut out for this board.

Does this occur frequently in Britain like he says it does? 
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