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MarZutra:
Were they members of the CFR, Trilateral or associated with the Bilderberg?  I suspect they knew all about it and it was a sham.  If you have a local library, for example, sign out the memoirs of Barry Goldwater "With No Apologies"......there you will find your answer from a person who was amongst the highest levels of American politics.....   I'd argue that the Russians actually started it with the help of American Elitist establishment who funded it via Lend Lease programs....

RationalThought110:

--- Quote from: MarZutra on May 21, 2007, 09:07:35 PM ---Were they members of the CFR, Trilateral or associated with the Bilderberg?  I suspect they knew all about it and it was a sham.  If you have a local library, for example, sign out the memoirs of Barry Goldwater "With No Apologies"......there you will find your answer from a person who was amongst the highest levels of American politics.....   I'd argue that the Russians actually started it with the help of American Elitist establishment who funded it via Lend Lease programs....

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"Were they members of the CFR, Trilateral or associated with the Bilderberg?"

Who?  Yes, Gore is a member. 

There's a site that lists all the members, updated as of 1996, I think.

I think every Secretary of State, Defense Secretary and CIA agent during at least the page 50 years has been a member.  Maybe there's a rule that to be confirmed as a Secretary of State, Defense Secretary or Director of the CIA, it's a requirement to become a member of CFR. 


Although Congress authorized the war in Iraq, wasn't it CFR that mandated them to do so? 


Something I don't understand:
 
    John Bolton, Jimmy Carter and Soros are all members of CFR.  Yet, Bolton seems so much different in regards to policy, than the other two.  Does CFR require its members to all have a consensus on the same policies? 

RationalThought110:
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html

"In 1944 and in 1948, the Republican candidate for President, Thomas Dewey, was a CFR member. In later years, Republicans Eisenhower and Nixon were members of the CFR, as were Democrats Stevenson, Kennedy, Humphrey, and McGovern. (Note: We believe Kennedy became disloyal to the CFR prior to his assassination.") The American people think that they have a choice when they vote for a President, but the truth of the matter is , with few exceptions: Presidential candidates for decades have been CFR members. "


"Barry Goldwater states in his book, "With No Apologies", on page 231:

"Does it not seem strange to you that these men just happened to be CFR and just happened to be on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, that absolutely controls the money and interest rates of this great country without benefit of Congress? A privately owned organization, the Federal Reserve, which has absolutely nothing to do with the United States of America!"


"During the 1976 political campaign, Carter repeatedly told the nation that he was going to get rid of the Establishment Insiders if he became president. But when he took office, he promptly filled his Administration with members of the Council on Foreign Relations (284 to be exact) and The Trilateral Commission, the two most prominent insider organizations in America. Included in this list of members of The Trilateral Commission were Walter Mondale and Dr. Henry Kissinger.

Beginning with Jimmy Carter, all the recent presidents, including president Clinton, have promptly filled their administrations with members of the Council on Foreign relations and The Trilateral Commission." 

RationalThought110:
"n reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.

Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains. "


http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

MarZutra:
Very good RT.  I have that book sitting on my...oops my friend Donnie has borrowed it.  Daniel Pipes is too a member of the CFR.  One has to be invited to be a member.  Of course not all members are of this "elitist" order and very few actually get chosen to be accepted into the inner circle.  Yes they are all connected some place.  If you look at the CFR - Trilateral Membership roster you will see that a few of them (which are subsequently the top members) are also members of the Bilderberg Group.  This group has members that are from the British Round Table Group founded by Cecil Rhodes and/or the British Fabian Society.  In Europe this group has members that are found in the White/Black Nobility and the Council of Rome.  In America CFR, Skull and Bones Society.  You will too find out that Jimmy Carter and even Bill Clinton were chosen....by the Bilderberg Group...("A Choice not an Echo" by Phyllis Schofly for one example..)

There are many "useful idiots" as well, mainly of the Left that support their front groups via activist lobby groups for ACLU, NAACP, Rand, Tavistock and many others.  Some are just planted establishment frauds like Ghorge Bush and Daniel Pipes....in my honest opinion.   It is a very big elitist fraud my friend... 

You stated the numerous high members of the American government being members of the CFR, high members or chosed pawns for them.  Logically, if 73% of the Israeli Knesset were members of various Kahanist groups the outcome of the Knesset, be it foreign or internal policy, will reflect the basic views of Rabbi Kahane.  This is the same for the CFR (Bilderberg)-Trilateral.  If you read many of the essays published by this treasonous entity (think tank) you can predict America's foreign policy, stock market, internal policies long before it happens...in many cases. 

Good post...  Might I add into the mix the founders of the Leage of Nations and the UN were also Elitists and Communists like Rockefeller, Ford, Colonel House, Alger Hiss and Amerasia's Owen Lattimore.....  places things into a bit clearer perspective no....?

PS: I you have a library near you, you might consider a very worthy read by an Englishman named John Robinson.  His book was printed in 1798 called "Proofs of a Conspiracy".  This little gem, although hard reading, lays the agenda of this NWO elitist/Socialist/Communistic type subversive power movement. 

Even in the mid 1700's when printing presses were starting to pump out many books and reading clubs opened up.  These elitists "thinkers" (Adam Weishaupt for example) with his cohorts started buying them up, entering into and controlling the reading clubs and universities by using their insiders to promote/hire their like minded brethren.  In the end they ended up controlling much of the media, universities, reading societies (for which they could influence, manipulate and enter politics).....sounds very much like the oligarchs that run things today no?  Enjoy brother....  it is a vile topic but hey, they invented and promulgated: Communism: Evolution: Reform "Judaism" with their molested Christian/Socialst sects, Global Warming: Islam is a religion of peace: Bolistians: The W-st Bank: Feminism: Population Control: Central/Federal/nothing based Credit banking: J.M. Keynesian Economics....

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