More and more I have noticed hatred of Jews in various ways. There are religious, secular, and racist agendas behind this usually.
I've posted a few threads now that have pointed out those who accused the modern day Jews of not really being descendants of the Israelites. Some have also claimed that Jews were never the physical ancestors of the Israelites but rather a modified religion that mimicked some aspects of the Israelites. There are even some Jews to this day that claim that they have no physical relation to the Israelites and it's irrelevant to them.
I was sitting on Paltalk and I noticed a number of rooms that were pro palestinian and they seem to be getting more supporters by the day. Most of the discussions involved the usual.
"Zionists stole our land"
"Those fake Jews are colonizers from Russia and Eastern Europe"
"Jews come from the Khazars"
"They are doing the same thing to us as they did to the natives in America"
Of course this is the typical claim that somehow palestinians are a ethnic group of people that existed for thousands of years but they
contradict themselves in this manner in more ways than one
Palestinians native? The typical debate is that the modern Jew is somehow a colonizer from Europe who never had a presence there and that the Palestinians are
native to this land.
Usual claims are that Israel either
A) Never existed
B) Existed as a small tribal kingdom within Palestine
C) Existed as a large kingdom but Palestinians descend from them
D) Group of Canaanites rebelled against their kingdom and became Israelites while forging their history
Here's the problem with their argument.
Shlomos latest book about the "creation of the Jewish people" which many pro palestinians refer to for their debates claims that
the Israelite kingdom simply did not exist as a large kingdom as referenced to C). Palestinians claim that the Israelites never were
exiled and they simply converted to Christianity and then to Islam, therefore Palestinians are the descendants of Israelites?
However an oxymoron to that argument is that the name Palestinians derives from the Philistines, and every Palestinian will claim this.
The Phillistines were the ancient enemies of the Israelites
As you can see the Philistines were restricted to the region of Gaza and were not related to the Canaanites racially or culturally
in any way. The Philistines were not even native to the land but descend from the Sea Peoples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines#Origin_of_the_PhilistinesIt's been speculated that the Philistines may have come from Greece. The name Philistines usually translates as "migrant" or "invader"
How can the Palestinians claim an identity and origin to a group of people such as the Philistines who are not even originally from the
land and also claim to be Israelites as well as Canaanites?
To further complicate matters, according to the census of "Palestine"
According to the Jerusalem demographics and population census which are records taken both by Ottoman sources and British sources (note the
Arabs reject this because it's a Jewish source according to them) indicate the population as staying at a relatively small size. Granted
the population of Arabs increased when Saladin took over Jerusalem but the numbers do not spike except for the year 1553
http://www.cbs.gov.il/hodaot2006n/11_06_106b.pdfhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Jerusalem#Population_by_ethnicityAccording to Baron, there were 250 Jews in 1471 but unknown number of Muslims or Christians.
Fast forward and in 1525, there are 199 Jews, 616 muslims, 119 Christians
By 1553 there are 1,958 Jews, 11,750 Muslims, and 358 Christians
By 1824 there are 6,000 Jews, 10,000 Muslims, and 4,000 Christians
By 1844 there are 7,120 Jews, 5,000 Muslims, and 3,390 Christians
Note the dates and the population, the number of muslims fell by about 1,000. According to sources, modern Zionism was founded
by secular Jews from Eastern Europe.The political movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist
Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century.
The 1st aliyah to Israel in mass numbers started in 1881 when Jews first started immigrating to the land
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_aliyahEstimates ranged from 25,000 to 35,000 Jews
The population of Jews is rising in the early 1800's and the Muslim population falling long before there was ever a mass
immigration to Israel and the population is increasing from native born Jews, not immigrants from Eastern Europe
Infact according to the population census in Jerusalem reflects this, the reason Jerusalem is important is that it was the largest
city in population and Arabs claim historical rights to it and claim that their religious worship sights are located there so
theoretically it should be the most populated region of the land. It's also important for factual reasons because the Aliyah immigration
did not begin until 1881 but yet Muslim population decreased and Jewish numbers increased which would indicate that either Muslims
were dying in large numbers from poverty, being killed off by Jews (which there is no evidence of military conflict previous to
the 1900's), or not being reported in census which is highly doubtful since this territory was under control of the Ottoman empire
at the time.
By 1896, there are 28,110 Jews, 8,560 Muslims, and 8,750 Christians
the population of Muslims increased around 1922 by almost 5,000 while the Jews continue to increase possibly in immigration but
possibly due to birth rates increasing as well, the muslims population also increases but yet there population according to
Jerusalem census actually decreased but suddenly increased after Jews started making Aliyah and their numbers increased?
Muslims populations in 1922 is 13,413 and increases to 30,600 by 1944. Either someones having a lot of babies or they are
immigrating from somewhere?
This would indicate Arabs were trying to compete with the Jewish numbers increasing by bringing immigrants in from other countries.
It's well known about Irgun and Haganah conflicting with Muslim militias and supposedly according to the anti Jewish sources claim
that Jews purged and cleansed these towns of Palestinian populations.
Jerusalem was under control of Jordan during 1948 and Israel won Jerusalem back in 1967.
Muslims population in 1967 was 54,963 but yet there population in 1986 is 121,000, we're told that these Muslims were exterminated
and cleansed, something doesn't add up but yet by 1995 they make up 182,700 people?
The demographics clearly speak for themselves that if the Arabs had a permanent presense in Jerusalem, why were their numbers decreasing
until Jewish immigration in the 1900's?
British even documented that 50,000 Arabs immigrated into the land in the 1930's according to Martin Gilbert.
Of course in the eyes of the Liberal they will refute this argument and say "it's irrelevant if you had the land first, we're talking
now and what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians kicking them out of their homes". This shows what hypocrites the leftists
are because they argue the idea that Palestinians are somehow these "native" people who had the land first and once proven wrong
they go back to their debate on human rights.
in theory, if the Palestinians claim to be the descendants of the Philistines, then their territory would be limited to Gaza, not the entire land of Israel. However that is beside the point as there is no evidence that the Palestinians descend from the Philistines.
If anyone else has any contradictions to point out about so called Palestinian history feel free.
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