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What is the proof that the Oral Law is authentic?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Ben m on June 22, 2010, 02:33:31 AM ---oral law is not authentic.it is interpretations to the bible that was sealed in the 6th century B.C.E..
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What do you mean it's not authentic? What about it makes it in your mind not authentic?
The Jewish people have always considered it authentic, however you have separated yourself from the entire history and concept of the Jewish people. So why are you an authority to say what is or what isn't, in the name of Jewish thought?
Who cares when it was sealed? Please make a coherent point.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Ben m on June 22, 2010, 04:45:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ariel Shayn on June 22, 2010, 04:04:11 AM ---
What makes you think that? Please explain yourself in detail.
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see the creation of the talmud.
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You mean this? http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/3/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/2/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/
This expert obviously disagrees with you.
The main difference is, he actually knows about the subject, the development and sealing of the Talmud, whereas you know nothing about it. And yet you comment anyway with a complete lack of knowledge or expertise. What chutzpa.
Regarding what ben says in this thread - The plumber has come to tell us his opinions about Darwinian evolution.
Ben m:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 22, 2010, 08:04:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ben m on June 22, 2010, 04:45:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ariel Shayn on June 22, 2010, 04:04:11 AM ---
What makes you think that? Please explain yourself in detail.
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see the creation of the talmud.
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You mean this? http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/3/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/2/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/
This expert obviously disagrees with you.
The main difference is, he actually knows about the subject, the development and sealing of the Talmud, whereas you know nothing about it. And yet you comment anyway with a complete lack of knowledge or expertise. What chutzpa.
Regarding what ben says in this thread - The plumber has come to tell us his opinions about Darwinian evolution.
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i didn't meant this source.i meant him to google the term.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Ben m on June 22, 2010, 08:45:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 22, 2010, 08:04:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ben m on June 22, 2010, 04:45:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ariel Shayn on June 22, 2010, 04:04:11 AM ---
What makes you think that? Please explain yourself in detail.
--- End quote ---
see the creation of the talmud.
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You mean this? http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/3/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/page/2/
http://hashkafacircle.com/shiurim/category/history-development-of-the-talmud/
This expert obviously disagrees with you.
The main difference is, he actually knows about the subject, the development and sealing of the Talmud, whereas you know nothing about it. And yet you comment anyway with a complete lack of knowledge or expertise. What chutzpa.
Regarding what ben says in this thread - The plumber has come to tell us his opinions about Darwinian evolution.
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i didn't meant this source.i meant him to google the term.
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Google what term?
If you're going to learn about something so complex and vast as the Talmud with a google search, you have not done it justice. Certainly if you land on a missionary site or a neo-nazi site that has its theories about the Talmud, then you have simply read falsehoods. So I'm not sure why a google search answers the question. Ariel Shayn and his friend are inquiring for ideas about Talmud's authenticity or authority. This requires a depth of wisdom and understanding of what the Talmud actually is before one can even try to postulate. Finding a website that agrees with your preconceived notion does not help a person get beyond a superficial understanding. Pointing out specific things does. Some people in this thread have done that, while you have not.
muman613:
You realize that the "Talmud" is actually two talmuds...
There is the "Talmud Bavli" and the "Talmud Yerushalmi"... Both Talmuds were assembled in parallel, one was compiled by the Rabbis in Babylon and the other was compiled by Rabbis who had returned to Jerusalem after the Babylonians allowed some Rabbis to return to the Holy Land.
Obviously these Talmuds were written long before the 6th Century C.E.... They were closed in the 6th century from any additions but it is clear that the original writing of the Talmud must have occured shortly after the destruction of the Temple around the year 70 C.E..
From Pirkie avot:
Moses received Torah from Sinai and handed it down to Joshua; and Joshua to the Elders; and the Elders to the Prophets; and the Prophets handed it down to the members of the Great Assembly.
They said three things: Be deliberate in judgement, stand up many students, and make a fence for the Torah.
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