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The relationship between Jews and Samaritans?
IsraeliGovtAreKapos:
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 27, 2010, 09:24:10 PM --- To me the phrase "Good Samaritan" is an Oxymoron...
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to me "A good Samaritan" is a dead one.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Ron Juan on June 27, 2010, 11:40:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 27, 2010, 09:24:10 PM --- To me the phrase "Good Samaritan" is an Oxymoron...
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to me "A good Samaritan" is a dead one.
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Me too... What they did to the Jewish people during the Roman invasion...
--- Quote ---http://www.jewishmag.com/135mag/beitar/beitar.htm
Legend tells us that at this time when Severus was contemplating withdrawal a Samaritan presented him with a plan. He knew that inside Beitar was the holy Rabbi Elazar HaModai who had been fasting since the siege of Beitar began and praying for divine help for all of the Jews. It was considered that in the merit of this holy Rabbi that bar Kochba and his men enjoyed their success. This Samaritan came to Rabbi Elazar, stood behind him and pretended to whisper something in his ear. When word spread that Rabbi Elazar had conversed with a Samaritan whose reputation as a hater of Israel was well known, Shimon bar Kochba became furious and demanded of Rabbi Elazar to know what was said. Rabbi Elazar HaModai denied a conversation since he was unaware of the Samaritan standing behind him while he was deeply involved in his prayers. Bar Kochba became so angry with him that he hit the elderly sage. Rabbi Elazar HaModai who was in a weakened state after so many days of fasting died.
From this point onwards, everything went wrong with the city of Beitar. The Romans stormed the city and successfully breached the walls. They overwhelmed the city and killed tens of thousands of Jews who hid in the fortified city. Tradition tells us that it was on the Ninth of Av, Tisha B'av, when the city fell and all inside were killed.
Thus ended the Jewish revolt against the Romans and began the great exile of nearly two thousand years from which we are just beginning to emerge.
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Ari Ben-Canaan:
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 27, 2010, 11:55:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ron Juan on June 27, 2010, 11:40:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 27, 2010, 09:24:10 PM --- To me the phrase "Good Samaritan" is an Oxymoron...
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to me "A good Samaritan" is a dead one.
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Me too... What they did to the Jewish people during the Roman invasion...
--- Quote ---http://www.jewishmag.com/135mag/beitar/beitar.htm
Legend tells us that at this time when Severus was contemplating withdrawal a Samaritan presented him with a plan. He knew that inside Beitar was the holy Rabbi Elazar HaModai who had been fasting since the siege of Beitar began and praying for divine help for all of the Jews. It was considered that in the merit of this holy Rabbi that bar Kochba and his men enjoyed their success. This Samaritan came to Rabbi Elazar, stood behind him and pretended to whisper something in his ear. When word spread that Rabbi Elazar had conversed with a Samaritan whose reputation as a hater of Israel was well known, Shimon bar Kochba became furious and demanded of Rabbi Elazar to know what was said. Rabbi Elazar HaModai denied a conversation since he was unaware of the Samaritan standing behind him while he was deeply involved in his prayers. Bar Kochba became so angry with him that he hit the elderly sage. Rabbi Elazar HaModai who was in a weakened state after so many days of fasting died.
From this point onwards, everything went wrong with the city of Beitar. The Romans stormed the city and successfully breached the walls. They overwhelmed the city and killed tens of thousands of Jews who hid in the fortified city. Tradition tells us that it was on the Ninth of Av, Tisha B'av, when the city fell and all inside were killed.
Thus ended the Jewish revolt against the Romans and began the great exile of nearly two thousand years from which we are just beginning to emerge.
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I have read in my "Concise Book of Mitzvoth" [by Chofetz Chaim] that when a Jew kills another member of Jewry it is considered as if the whole world has been killed. For a Tzadik Jew to be killed by another righteous Jew... truly the end of a world takes place it would seem. I have read that the Samaritans of today have genetic problems as a result of heavy inbreeding over the past several centuries. This would seem to be quite a punishment doled out by HaShem for such loathsome treachery! I have also read that Samaritan men now try and lure Jewish women into marriage [as a cure to their inbreeding problems], which to me is outrageous for a Jewish woman to do [what kind of self hating Jewish woman would throw in with a lot of inbred non-Jews who have caused such catastrophe for one's own people!! I suppose there really are Jewesses this sick... to throw away a millennias old Jewish legacy on "Johnny 'AntiSemite' Inbred". God forbid!!!].
Harzel:
I think there are only about a thousand of them left. Half live in Hulon and half in Shechem, near mount Grizim. They all have double citizenship- Israeli and Palestinian. They speak modern Hebrew and Arabic, at least those who live with the Arabs, but the Hebrew they use for praying sounds different. They claim they have a problem of producing more males than females which is why they have to import brides. From what I heard usually they bring their brides from former soviet republics like Uzbekistan. The Hulonite Samaritans have Israeli mentality but it seems the Shechmite Samaritans have Arab mentality in regards to how they treat women and other members of their community, even though being a tiny minority they are pacified. During the second Intifada, there were a couple of cases of Samaritans from Shechem who tried to sneak terrorist into Israel exploiting their free passage rights.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Zelhar on June 28, 2010, 01:50:54 AM ---I think there are only about a thousand of them left. Half live in Hulon and half in Shechem, near mount Grizim.
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Oh I thought even less than that, but they're on their way out either way.
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