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Offline RationalThought110

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What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« on: May 22, 2007, 07:40:48 PM »
These days, too many children are born out of wedlock. 

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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 08:05:05 PM »
The Western concept of illegitimacy is not part of Judaism. A child's parents whether they were wed or not are responsible for the care and raising of the child, thats about it whether or not the parents were married doesnt abrogate the Mitzvot related to raising the child.
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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2007, 09:08:37 PM »
The Western concept of illegitimacy is not part of Judaism. A child's parents whether they were wed or not are responsible for the care and raising of the child, thats about it whether or not the parents were married doesnt abrogate the Mitzvot related to raising the child.

But I thought the Torah discusses marriage and is against pre-marital sex?

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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2007, 10:26:23 PM »
Yes, it is, but a child born out of wedlock doesnt have a different status then any other child.
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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2007, 11:22:11 PM »
Od, a Mamzer isnt a child born out of wedlock but a child born of specific forbidden relationships. Its very different than the Western concept of the Bastard. Besides which there are better sources for Jewish law then Wikipedia :o
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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2007, 11:40:27 PM »
Od, a Mamzer isnt a child born out of wedlock but a child born of specific forbidden relationships. Its very different than the Western concept of the Bastard. Besides which there are better sources for Jewish law then Wikipedia :o
Sorry, didn't read the post carefully enough.

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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2007, 04:34:50 PM »
Od, a Mamzer isnt a child born out of wedlock but a child born of specific forbidden relationships. Its very different than the Western concept of the Bastard. Besides which there are better sources for Jewish law then Wikipedia :o


What's a mamzer?

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Re: What does the Torah say about illegitimate children?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 05:14:52 PM »
Od, a Mamzer isnt a child born out of wedlock but a child born of specific forbidden relationships. Its very different than the Western concept of the Bastard. Besides which there are better sources for Jewish law then Wikipedia :o


What's a mamzer?
A child born from an adulterous or incestuous relationship.  I didn't read the post carefully, and I thought you were talking about that.

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