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Ask JTF for Sunday. September 5, 2010
RightWingGentile:
Dear Chaim,
Instead of a question this week, I instead would like to tell a story and then ask a question- one that I feel is very important and serves to underscore the problems in America.
I own a business in addition to my full-time job, and both of my co-founders are Jews. While both are self-haters who voted for Barack Hussein Osama, I've managed to look past this because of our potential to make the company extremely successful, and because I've felt that deep down, they were good people who were caught up in the insanity in this country. However, my mind may have been changed this week.
A few days ago, I went with one of my business partners to a pre-wedding dinner for a co-worker. Towards the end of the night, an associate of ours started talking politics. Of course, I couldn't resist the opportunity to slam Obama, so I began railing against him and spreading the JTF mantra, which I'm very good at because I've been doing it for a decade. All the people in the argument except me were Jews, so I took the opportunity to bring up the butchering of the 4 innocent Israelis by the satanic faction Hamas, YSV, may they all burn in hellfire forever. My business partner started talking about the need for "peace" and that "killing Arabs won't solve anything", and I of course shot him down with facts and the truth, something these self-hating morons tend to avoid in favor of the insane idea of "peace". After I invoked the Bible and told him that on the day of Judgment, G-d will ask you what you did against evil - and he wouldn't have a reply to offer. He then told me that he "didn't consider Judaism to be a religion, but a culture". I sat stunned as all the other Jews at the table agreed with him, and they all took turns saying that, ultimately, they didn't know anyone in Israel and thus didn't care if the Arabs took 100% of the territory. At this point, I felt that the argument was pointless, so I stopped engaging them - it would have gotten ugly if it had continued.
Chaim, it was all I could do to not stand up and scream YSV in their faces, and tell them that they wouldn't need winter coats where they were going in the next world. I was furious at the time, but I have mixed feelings now. These people and particularly my business partner are my friends, but it's hard for me to look them in the eye with respect because of how utterly stupid they are. That being said, they've been my friends and co-workers, and I have a genuine affinity for them as people. My question is: on the day of Judgment, when they come face to face with G-d, is it your opinion that G-d will take mercy on them? Or, will he cast them off to Gehenom for their indifference to the plight of their people? Please answer as thoroughly as possible; I am very interested to hear your always sage thoughts.
May G-d bless you and the JTF,
RWG
Herutnik:
Shalom brother Chaim, ma shlomcha?
1. About your comments on Gabi Ashkenazi last week, you assumed that he had some connection to the expulsion from Gush Katif (and i thought you were probably right). But the funny thing that i found out is that he wasn't even in the army at the time, he was actually released from the army in late 2004, then he came back and became the General only in 2007. I just wanted to point that out so we won't make any false accusations on anyone.
2. I wanna mention the 'Im Tirzu' movement again this week.
I just wanna point out that I am no supporter of this group, even though theyv'e tried to do some good. As a matter of fact it's not even a right wing movement and it doesn't claim to be, so there's no reason for us to have any expectations. And I don't know how many members of that group actually support phonies like Netanyahu as youv'e mentioned last week (but i assume there are quite a few). But what i do know is that The founder of this group was actually accused by many leftists of being "to the right of the Likud" (in those exact words) for various reasons that im not even interested in.
But one thing that disturbs me about this group is that their main donor last year was a wealthy american right wing evangelical christian, that contributed 100,000 dollars, so it's just Too bad that no rich person like him ever donated that amount of money to JTF.
3. Did you hear that the former President of the Supreme Court Aharon Barak and his close family (wife, children and grand children), have no less than 18 expensive houses? despite that, his father was a poor man so he hasn't received any inheritance and Aharon himself was no more than an employee (and never an employer) his whole life.
Now, let's leave aside the fact that he's a radical anti-Zionist scumbag.
Is it just me, or does this smell kinda fishy? do you think the police should open an investigation on where he got these houses from?
Chaim hagibor toda raba lecha,
Herutnik.
Baltimore:
How and why did you go on a hunger strike in prison? Did you only drink water during the hunger strike and how long did it last? Do you recommend a hunger strike as a protest method?
Thanks
Secularbeliever:
Shalom Chaim,
Is there any one overwhelming factor that you can put your finger on to explain how Israel turned from a go it alone, tough, kick butt and take names later, attitude to a suicidal, needing to be loved, appeasing nation? Some say it started with the Yom Kippur War and the horrendous losses suffered there. Others point to the First Lebanon War as Israel's Viet Nam.
I am wondering if there is an explanation that is tremendously ironic. Israel in the last twenty years has become a wealthy high tech based nation. Many say Israelis are more interested in money than in their nation. The ironic part is that the high tech boom was to a large degree ignited by the arrival of so many well educated, especially in the areas of science, Jews from the Soviet Union. While Soviet Jews, themselves, may be as, if not more, nationalistic than the rest of the Israelis, by unleashing a wave of high tech prosperity they have helped transformed Israel into a European style nation where living well is considered more important than keeping Israel Jewish and strong. My own opinion is that a strong, Jewish Israel will prosper more than a post Zionist attempt at immitating anti Semites in France or Belgium but many Israelis hold the opposite opinion.
JTFenthusiast2:
Dear Chaim,
Where do you find other similar minded, right-wing friends? Many of my friends are so liberal that I have found it difficult to be friends with many of them. I should note that what makes it difficult is not the difference of opinion because that I could tolerate. What makes it difficult is the segway into anti-Semitism. Let me provide two examples without being tedious. Number one: I was talking to a friend of mine who is a Unitarian minister, he said he was very annoyed when his prospective landlord asked him if he and his female roomate were married. I asked him, "why would you be annoyed at that?" He was incredulous, angrily stating, "that's illlegal, they can't do that,etc" I said that I thought it made sense that a landlord would want to ask that bec. married people tend to be more stable because of the fact that the relationship ideally has a measure of permanence built in, etc. He said, "well how would you feel if your prospective landlord asked you your religion?" I explained that this was an apples and oranges kind of comparison and that my religion had nothing to do with my ability to be a good tenant. And so it went on.
The second example is more severe: I met with a friend and her male partner after not having seen them for a few years. My friend who was raised and helped by a Jewish woman and her daughter had a horrible experience working for an Orthodox Jew--ONE EXPERIENCE. SHe started saying that this was the most racist firm she had ever worked for...then she gave examples of inappropriate office email jokes. I explained that while I thought the emails were in poor taste, I understood where the animus was coming from. I proceeded to explain how American Jews have given a tremendous inordinate amount of their time, energy, money, lifeblood to a group of people that have really completely taken a dump on us and I explained why: calmly, nicely, logically. None of this really mattered. Her opinions are changed forever. We then went into Israel and a similarly disappointing discussion ensued.
The thing is I can't be without friends, so what would your advice be? Thank you in advance for yout thoughtful consideration of our questions. JTFE
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