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Propaganda against Milan Nedic
Novakovic:
--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 10, 2010, 09:36:42 PM ---Is it possible that Nedic's police collaborated in arresting Jews and Gypsies/Roma? Yes, there was some of that. But most were arrested by German soldiers and the executions were carried out by German Wehrmacht and the SS.
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How come that Milan Nedic provided false documents to Jews and Gypsies in order to save them from Nazi prosecution, if Milan Nedic, according to your statements, participated into Nazi-activities?
Milan Nedic provided false pasports to Jews and others to protect them from Nazi prosecution. Milan Nedic did not cooperate with the Nazis in everything.
If something was bad for the Serbs, Milan Nedic refused that. The Germans wanted to send Nedic's divisions to the eastern front, but Nedic did not allow that. He said that his units are necessary to fight the communists in Yugoslavia.
Milan Nedic supplied the Serbian antifascist movement - the army in the fatherland - the Cetnik movement with money and weaponry, while he was ''collaborating'' with the Germans. There are too many facts which deny the accusation that Nedic's government participated in crimes against Serbs, Jews or Gypsies. The crimes against those people were perpetrated by the Nazis and their followers.
So, Milan Nedic was not a puppet or a collaborator, he actually used his agreements with the enemy to save as many as possible lives.
Sox7:
--- Quote from: Novakovic on November 11, 2010, 07:12:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 10, 2010, 09:36:42 PM ---Is it possible that Nedic's police collaborated in arresting Jews and Gypsies/Roma? Yes, there was some of that. But most were arrested by German soldiers and the executions were carried out by German Wehrmacht and the SS.
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How come that Milan Nedic provided false documents to Jews and Gypsies in order to save them from Nazi prosecution, if Milan Nedic, according to your statements, participated into Nazi-activities?
Milan Nedic provided false pasports to Jews and others to protect them from Nazi prosecution. Milan Nedic did not cooperate with the Nazis in everything.
If something was bad for the Serbs, Milan Nedic refused that. The Germans wanted to send Nedic's divisions to the eastern front, but Nedic did not allow that. He said that his units are necessary to fight the communists in Yugoslavia.
Milan Nedic supplied the Serbian antifascist movement - the army in the fatherland - the Cetnik movement with money and weaponry, while he was ''collaborating'' with the Germans. There are too many facts which deny the accusation that Nedic's government participated in crimes against Serbs, Jews or Gypsies. The crimes against those people were perpetrated by the Nazis and their followers.
So, Milan Nedic was not a puppet or a collaborator, he actually used his agreements with the enemy to save as many as possible lives.
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OK, do you have evidence of this? I know the Communists demonized everyone that wasn't with them after the war, including Mihailovic. They practically made the insane concept of Nedic = Pavelic, which is completely nonsense.
If Nedic was OK with Mihailovic, why did he imprison Mihailovic's wife and two children in Banjica? Draza's wife was in Banjica for two years, even though she wasn't a Partisan (and Mihailovic's kids were in the Partisans). Are you saying that Nedic had no people working in Banjica?
We know that in Sajmiste and Crveni Krst the Germans were running everything, but I thought in Banjica that Nedic's people had a role. At any rate, Banjica was more like a prison and not quite like a camp in the way Sajmiste was. I think several hundred Jews and Roma were killed there but most victims were Serb resisters or reprisal hostages.
Novakovic:
Amongst Serbs it is well know that those accusations are remains from the communist area.
Well it is a fact which is confirmed that Milan Nedic supplied the Yugoslav army in the fatherland [the Serbian Cetnik Movement, the first Serbian anti-fascist army] with weaponry. Something like that can not me mentioned without evidence.
In Serbian history that is mentioned several times.
It is also a fact that Milan Nedic saved many people from Nazi prosecution, not only Serbs also Jews and Gypsies. The soldiers of Milan Nedic were not involved in camps which were installed by the occupying forces. The camps were controlled by Germans and in those places Serbs were also victimized. The statement that Milan Nedic participated or partly participated in the Nazi crimes is a remain of the communist area. The soldiers of Milan Nedic never used even Nazi symbols or salutes, let alone participated into Nazi crimes. It is also a fact that Milan Nedic supported the protection of Jews, Serbs and Gypsies from Nazis. Many Jews escaped due to the fact that Nedic gave them false identities.
voo-yo:
--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 11, 2010, 10:48:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: Novakovic on November 11, 2010, 07:12:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sox7 on November 10, 2010, 09:36:42 PM ---Is it possible that Nedic's police collaborated in arresting Jews and Gypsies/Roma? Yes, there was some of that. But most were arrested by German soldiers and the executions were carried out by German Wehrmacht and the SS.
--- End quote ---
How come that Milan Nedic provided false documents to Jews and Gypsies in order to save them from Nazi prosecution, if Milan Nedic, according to your statements, participated into Nazi-activities?
Milan Nedic provided false pasports to Jews and others to protect them from Nazi prosecution. Milan Nedic did not cooperate with the Nazis in everything.
If something was bad for the Serbs, Milan Nedic refused that. The Germans wanted to send Nedic's divisions to the eastern front, but Nedic did not allow that. He said that his units are necessary to fight the communists in Yugoslavia.
Milan Nedic supplied the Serbian antifascist movement - the army in the fatherland - the Cetnik movement with money and weaponry, while he was ''collaborating'' with the Germans. There are too many facts which deny the accusation that Nedic's government participated in crimes against Serbs, Jews or Gypsies. The crimes against those people were perpetrated by the Nazis and their followers.
So, Milan Nedic was not a puppet or a collaborator, he actually used his agreements with the enemy to save as many as possible lives.
--- End quote ---
OK, do you have evidence of this? I know the Communists demonized everyone that wasn't with them after the war, including Mihailovic. They practically made the insane concept of Nedic = Pavelic, which is completely nonsense.
If Nedic was OK with Mihailovic, why did he imprison Mihailovic's wife and two children in Banjica? Draza's wife was in Banjica for two years, even though she wasn't a Partisan (and Mihailovic's kids were in the Partisans). Are you saying that Nedic had no people working in Banjica?
We know that in Sajmiste and Crveni Krst the Germans were running everything, but I thought in Banjica that Nedic's people had a role. At any rate, Banjica was more like a prison and not quite like a camp in the way Sajmiste was. I think several hundred Jews and Roma were killed there but most victims were Serb resisters or reprisal hostages.
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Ne trudi se, nema on dokaze ni za sta. Samo ce da ti ponavlja "dobro poznate cinjenice", a poznate samo njemu.
Nedic jeste pomogao nekim ljudima, ali isto tako je obavljao i prljave poslove za Nemce. Logicno, jer zasto bi drzali na tom mestu nekoga ko svo vreme radi protiv njih?
Novakovic:
voo-yo,
Why are you writing Serbian to him? Is he a Serb?
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