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Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
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Catholic Cleric: Jesus Cancelled Biblical ‘Chosen People’
 
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
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The Creator’s promise in the Bible that the Promised Land belongs to the Jewish People is no longer valid is, a Catholic synod declared. An American archbishop at the Synod explained Saturday that the promise of the Creator was "abolished by the presence of Christ."

In a decision that is bound to set off a furious reaction from many Jewish leaders, the synod concluded that “recourse to theological and biblical positions which use the Word of G-d to wrongly justify injustices is not acceptable.”

However, an implicitly contradictory Synod statement also declared, “The same Scriptures unite us; The Tanach, the Word of G-d is for both you and us...  We believe in the promises of G-d and his covenant given to Abraham and to you. We believe that the Word of G-d is eternal.”

The Catholic church in recent years has been trying to overcome centuries of anti-Semitism and proof that it exploited the Holocaust to try to convert Jews who were saved.

U.S. archbishop Cyril Salim Bustros, a Lebanese native who heads the commission that issued the Synod statement, told reporters, "For Christians, one can no longer talk of the land promised to the Jewish people… There is no longer a favored people, a chosen people; all men and women of every country have become the chosen people.”

After two weeks of meetings, the Synod also said that a two-state solution of a Palestinian Authority country, in place of most of the Land Israel, would help stem the exodus of Christians from the area.

Concerning Jerusalem, the Synod said it is “anxious about the unilateral initiatives that threaten its composition and risk to change its demographic balance.” After Jordanian-occupied area of Jerusalem were restored to Israel in 1967, the government opened all Christian holy sites after Jordan had banned non-official visits and closed the sites to tourists.

The Synod recognized "the suffering and insecurity in which Israelis live" but focused on what it called Palestinian Authority “suffering [of] the consequences of the Israeli occupation: the lack of freedom of movement, the wall of separation and the military checkpoints, the political prisoners, the demolition of homes, [and] the disturbance of socio-economic life and the thousands of refugees."   





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Vatican body asks UN to 'end Israeli occupation'

In final statement of two-week conference, bishops' synod says Biblical concept of 'promised land' cannot be used to justify settlements

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Published:    10.23.10, 14:00 / Israel News
   
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Israel cannot use the Biblical concept of a promised land or a chosen people to justify new "settlements" in Jerusalem or territorial claims, a Vatican synod on the Middle East said on Saturday.

 
In its concluding message after two weeks of meetings, the synod of bishops from the Middle East also said it hoped a two-state solution for peace between Israel and the Palestinians could be lifted from dream to reality and called for peaceful conditions that would stop a Christian exodus from the region.

 

"We have meditated on the situation of the holy city of Jerusalem. We are anxious about the unilateral initiatives that threaten its composition and risk to change its demographic balance," the message said.

 

 

 

US-brokered peace talks have stalled since Israel rejected appeals to extend a temporary moratorium on settlement construction in the West Bank that expired last month.

 
Since the freeze expired, Israel has announced plans to build another 238 homes in two east Jerusalem neighborhoods, drawing the condemnation of Palestinians and world leaders.

 
In a separate part of the document, a section on cooperation with Jews, the synod fathers also took issue with Jews who use the Bible to justify settlements in the West Bank, which Israel captured in 1967.

 
"Recourse to theological and biblical positions which use the Word of God to wrongly justify injustices is not acceptable," the document said.

 
Many Jewish settlers and right-wing Israelis claim a biblical birthright to the West Bank, which they call Judea and Samaria and regard as a part of historical, ancient Israel given to the Jews by God.

 

Asked about the passage at a news conference, Greek-Melchite Archbishop Cyrille Salim Bustros, said:

 
"We Christians cannot speak about the promised land for the Jewish people. There is no longer a chosen people. All men and women of all countries have become the chosen people.

 
"The concept of the promised land cannot be used as a base for the justification of the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of Palestinians," he added. "The justification of Israel's occupation of the land of Palestine cannot be based on sacred scriptures."

 
The synod's concluding message repeated a Vatican call for Jerusalem to have a special status "which respects its particular character" as a city sacred to the three great monotheistic religions -- Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

 
Jerusalem remains a key issue of dispute. Palestinians want east Jerusalem for capital of a future state. Israel has annexed the area, a move never recognized internationally, and has declared Jerusalem to be its "united and eternal" capital.

 
Israel did not include east Jerusalem as part of its 10-month building freeze, though most plans there were put on hold in March, when the US protested reports of a new housing project leaked during a visit by Vice President Joe Biden.

 
While recognizing "the suffering and insecurity in which Israelis live" and the need for Israel to enjoy peace within internationally recognized borders, the document was much more expansive and detailed on the situation of Palestinians.

 
It said Palestinians "are suffering the consequences of the Israeli occupation: the lack of freedom of movement, the wall of separation and the military checkpoints, the political prisoners, the demolition of homes, the disturbance of socio-economic life and the thousands of refugees."

 
It urged Christians in the region not to sell their homes and properties. "It is a vital aspect of the lives of those who remain there and for those who one day will return there."

 
It condemned terrorism "from wherever it may proceed" as well as anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and discrimination against Christians.
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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 05:38:54 PM »
im sure that after saying that BS, the cleric went and molested some more boys with his muslim friends,

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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 05:43:27 PM »
im sure that after saying that BS, the cleric went and molested some more boys with his muslim friends,
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Who are the Lebanese, and what is their history?

    * The native peoples of today's Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine are Semites who lived for thousands of years, competing among themselves, building homelands, and defending them from outside as well as inside conquests. Among these native peoples were the Assyro-Chaldeans and Aramaeans in Syro-Mesopotamia, the Phoenicians, Canaanites, Hebrews and others in Lebanon and ancient Israel. The region was predominantly inhabited by Syriac speaking peoples. The region had enjoyed its own identity for centuries, perhaps millennia, before the Arab Islamic conquest.

      After the military defeat of Byzantium and Persia, the two superpowers of the time, at the hands of the Arabs, the native populations were given three options. Either to submit to Islam and arabize, or to become Dhimmi, a second class citizen. A third option was the equivalent of ethnic cleansing. Large segments of the Syro-Mesopotamian, particularly the Syriac-speaking peoples, were arabised, Islamized or displaced from their original birthplace. Many among them lived as Dhimmis in the Arab dominated urban centers or in the country side. However a group of Christian Syriac-speaking people, the Maronites, were able to form a homeland in Mount Lebanon starting from the 7th century. The Maronites founded an independent entity called the Marada states. They resisted the various Arab Muslim dynasties for seven centuries and kept most of their homeland free from occupation. But a series of internal crisis and civil wars weakened the Marada states leading hence to their defeat at the hands of the Mamelukes in 1305.

      The Maronites, joined by other Christians from the region, succeeded in recapturing their autonomy in 1840. After the massacres of 1860, European intervention granted additional autonomous status to the Christians of Mount Lebanon in 1860. During WWI, the third of the Christians perished, another third emigrated. Under French rule, the Lebanese Christians chose Greater Lebanon as a modern state. Lebanese nationalism was the end product of centuries of struggle for freedom.

      In 1943, a national pact between Christian and Muslim leaders undermined the ethnic nationalism of the Christians. Until 1975, Lebanon enjoyed a financial success, while ethnic tensions remained unsolved. Lebanon was divided between a pro-Arab, mostly Islamic camp, which supported the Palestinians, and a Lebanese nationalist, Christian inspired camp, opposed to the dilution of the country's historic identity. The war of 1975-1990 destroyed the country, causing generalized massacres against civilians, particularly the Christian populations of the Shuf, Aley and the south. In October 1990, the Syrian army invaded the central free enclave of the Christians, ousted their government, disbanded their resistance, and imposed an Arab identity on the entire country.

      Since 1990, the Lebanese Christians were submitted to a systematic campaign aiming at their political and cultural dismantling. Christian youth are constantly arrested, their media denied freedom, their leaders harassed, and their identity denied. The West has abandoned their national and communal claim, while many other groups were granted basic rights in the region. While Christians in the center are under occupation, and Christians in the south are submitted to terror attacks, only Lebanese Christians in the diaspora are potentially capable of acting on behalf of their besieged community.

      - Dr Walid Phares, a native of Lebanon and formerly a lawyer in Beirut, and an instructor of political sociology at the Jesuit University of Beirut and Florida International University in Miami, is currently a professor of political science at Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, Florida. Dr Phares is the author of number of books and articles on ethnic conflict, nationalism, as well as Middle East politics and Lebanese affairs.

 
What was life like in Lebanon before Israel got involved and expelled the PLO?

    * In 1970 Arafat and his PLO were kicked out of Jordan when he began to move against King Hussein. That bloody day was known as Black September. Arafat fled to the unsuspecting and friendly arms of the Lebanese people. Lebanon was formerly governed jointly by Muslims and Christians according to the agreement after WWII. In the twelve years Arafat was there (1970 until the Israelis threw him out in 1982) he turned Lebanon into one of the most bloody killing grounds in the world. At least 100,000 Lebanese civilians were killed. Every corner of Beirut was a checkpoint for the terrorists to collect money, take your car, or simply blow you away. Muslim and Christian militia killed each other with joy.

      When Israel captured Beirut, they found that captured Christian soldiers were brought to Muslim hospitals where they were literally drained of their blood for transfusions to wounded Muslim PLO terrorists. One village chief made the mistake of defying Arafat. His 16 year old daughter was kidnapped and delivered to her father's doorstep in a sack, with her breasts cut off. The PLO adopted the Roman practice of tearing a man apart by using horses pulling his limbs in four directions. Arafat's men were more modern, using fours cars to dismember a man.

      - Emanuel A. Winston
      Middle East analyst & commentator

    * "In the corners of the streets of Beirut, small children exhibit bottle which contained human ears dunked in acid, like pickles or artichokes in vinegar. Bodies are laying in the streets immersed in their coagulated blood, some lacking their procreative organs, which were cut off and put in acid for exhibition by children ...
      "Nuns were raped in front of their parents and brothers and afterwards had their elbows slit....
      "The number of those killed and wounded, and worse than anything the kidnapped whose fate was usually horrible and awesome, reached about 40,000, with both sides competing between themselves for the most ferocious actions. Complete villages were pillaged, set on fire, and all the population eliminated. The [PLO] Palestinian terrorists were the most extreme and cruelly vicious of all".

      - Patrick Sills, British journalist
      London Observer, 15 January 1976

    * When, in 1976, Yasser Arafat's PLO destroyed Damour, a Christian Lebanese town of some 25,000 people, the Palestinian murderers employed the same barbaric methods as the Algerian fundamentalists. The priest of Damour, Father Mansour Labaky is quoted in J. Becker's The PLO:

      "And I remember something which still frightens me. An entire family had been killed, the Can'an family, four children all dead, and the mother, the father and the grandfather. The mother was still hugging one of the children. And she was pregnant. The eyes of the children were gone and their limbs were cut off. No legs and no arms. It was awful....We buried them ...under the shells of PLO."

      As J. Becker wrote, even before witnessing the atrocities, Father Labaky called Arafat and asked his aide to stop the shelling, saying, "I can assure you, as a religious leader, that we do not want the war; we do not believe in violence," He received a brutal reply, "Father, don't worry. We don't want to harm you. If we are destroying you, it is for strategic reasons."

      - Free Lebanon

    * The death and destruction caused in large part by the PLO and Syrian occupation of Lebanon during the era of the Lebanese civil war resulted in an estimated 100,000 killed, 250,000 wounded, 800,000 Christians and 500,000 Moslems homeless, and 32,000 orphaned children from 1970 to 1981.

      source: American Lebanese League, 1982

    * "After August 1982, Arafat's PLO had its existence only on his own lips, in the columns of Western newspapers, in the briefings of European foreign ministers, and in long speeches at the United Nations".

      - Jullian Becker, in The PLO
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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 07:18:49 PM »
That dhimmi "priest" needs to resume bending over for Sheik Nasrallah.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 07:25:02 PM »
Where did Jesus ever say that the Jews are not the chosen people? ...Or say anything anti-Jewish? I challenge anyone to quote a scripture. This priest obviously does not have a grasp on the Bible.

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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 07:48:38 PM »
im sure that after saying that BS, the cleric went and molested some more boys with his muslim friends,
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Your question doesn't make any sense to me.  How is Israel responsible for what Arafat y"s and the PLO did in Lebanon?    Back then, Israel was fighting against the PLO-in-lebanon.   And in any case, if Arafat y's and other muslim nazis did something, they are responsible, not Israel.   

Lebanese nazis just want to blame Israel for everything.    The lebanese nazis blame Israel because the lebanese decided to put fakestinian nazis into refugee camps and don't like the fakestinian vermin being in their country.   So in their warped minds that's Israel's fault for making the vermin flee.

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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »
We want Moshiach Now!

When I saw this story I was incensed. But this just proved the point I made right after Yom Kippur concerning the position of this church...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 09:23:11 PM »
We want Moshiach Now!

When I saw this story I was incensed. But this just proved the point I made right after Yom Kippur concerning the position of this church...


I love our Christian friends here and I really don't want to insult them.  However....you're right!

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 09:31:38 PM »
I love our Christian friends here and I really don't want to insult them.  However....you're right!
I know you mean no offense at all but just for the record, this is not the position of all Christianity. This is the position of this Arab POS and his fellow Arab fudgepackers and several old primitive, resentful freaks of nature that haven't advanced beyond the Homo erectus stage.

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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 10:28:31 PM »
Who does Israel belong to then? Arabs? Are Arabs God's chosen people now? Be prepared to read new Bible who's printing is sponsored by muslim lobby. In its pages will be Arabs instead of Jews as chosen people :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 10:59:28 PM »
Are Arabs G-d's chosen people now? Be prepared to read new Bible who's printing is sponsored by muslim lobby.
They already have that, they say that the Koran is the "real" Bible and that the "real" Gospel (the Injil) preaches Mohammed.

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 11:11:12 PM »
[In my humble opinion] The Catholics need to man up and get a Pope* who will acknowledge there is a war between Islam and the West, and that the Catholic Church is part of the West.  Blaming Israel for Muslim on Christian violence is asinine.  A, the Catholic Church is no great supporter of Israel.  B, Jews [the majority of Israelis] are not Christians, and play no part in Christian/Muslim relations!!

*who will get rid of petty clerics who lick Muslim boot.
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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2010, 11:15:04 PM »
how about this guy changes from priest to imam, he will still get to molest children, but will also be allowed to have a wife, and beat her, along with the children he molests.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 12:25:48 AM »
B, Jews [the majority of Israelis] are not Christians, and play no part in Christian/Muslim relations!!
And the majority of Arab "Christians" are not Christians either.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 01:32:56 AM »

It must be stressed that the statement came at the end of a meeting chaired by Pope Benedict XVI, so the statement reflects his own views.
When Pope Benedict XVI came to Israel two years ago, he officially called for the creation of a "Palestinian state" as quickly as possible.
Y.Arafat, that pedophile terrorist Nazi, used to receive the honors of a great statesman from the Vatican.

We are in 2010 and nothing has changed : the Vatican is still antisemitic to the core. If I were the PM of Israel, I would cut all relations with the Vatican after a statement like that.

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2010, 01:44:10 AM »

It must be stressed that the statement came at the end of a meeting chaired by Pope Benedict XVI, so the statement reflects his own views.
When Pope Benedict XVI came to Israel two years ago, he officially called for the creation of a "Palestinian state" as quickly as possible.
Y.Arafat, that pedophile terrorist Nazi, used to receive the honors of a great statesman from the Vatican.

We are in 2010 and nothing has changed : the Vatican is still antisemitic to the core. If I were the PM of Israel, I would cut all relations with the Vatican after a statement like that.

No more Vatican "State" visits of any kind.  If the Vatican wants to visit Israel it should not meet with Israeli gov't, or PLO/Hamas/Fatah.  Get a new Pope or STFU!
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2010, 02:01:43 AM »

It must be stressed that the statement came at the end of a meeting chaired by Pope Benedict XVI, so the statement reflects his own views.
When Pope Benedict XVI came to Israel two years ago, he officially called for the creation of a "Palestinian state" as quickly as possible.
Y.Arafat, that pedophile terrorist Nazi, used to receive the honors of a great statesman from the Vatican.

We are in 2010 and nothing has changed : the Vatican is still antisemitic to the core. If I were the PM of Israel, I would cut all relations with the Vatican after a statement like that.

Popes and priests do not necessarily do what Jesus condoned. Do all Jews practice what G-d commands? There are anti-semites among Jews too you know. I would argue the percentage might be even higher. Aren't there anti-semitic rabbis? quit the bull...Didn't Chaim say that the chief rabbi in Jeruselem did things to hurt the cause for Israel?

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2010, 02:03:29 AM »
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The Creator’s promise in the Bible that the Promised Land belongs to the Jewish People is no longer valid is, a Catholic synod declared. An American archbishop at the Synod explained Saturday that the promise of the Creator was "abolished by the presence of Christ."

I don't find this statement in my bible. The "archbishop" made it obviously up.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2010, 02:07:25 AM »
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The Creator’s promise in the Bible that the Promised Land belongs to the Jewish People is no longer valid is, a Catholic synod declared. An American archbishop at the Synod explained Saturday that the promise of the Creator was "abolished by the presence of Christ."

I don't find this statement in my bible. The "archbishop" made it obviously up.

you tell em Ulli!

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2010, 02:21:57 AM »

It must be stressed that the statement came at the end of a meeting chaired by Pope Benedict XVI, so the statement reflects his own views.
When Pope Benedict XVI came to Israel two years ago, he officially called for the creation of a "Palestinian state" as quickly as possible.
Y.Arafat, that pedophile terrorist Nazi, used to receive the honors of a great statesman from the Vatican.

We are in 2010 and nothing has changed : the Vatican is still antisemitic to the core. If I were the PM of Israel, I would cut all relations with the Vatican after a statement like that.

Popes and priests do not necessarily do what Jesus condoned. Do all Jews practice what G-d commands? There are anti-semites among Jews too you know. I would argue the percentage might be even higher. Aren't there anti-semitic rabbis? quit the bull...Didn't Chaim say that the chief rabbi in Jeruselem did things to hurt the cause for Israel?

If you read what I wrote, you should realize that your answer is wandering off the point. I was not talking about Catholics in general, but about the Vatican.
Still, the Pope is the leader of the worldwide church and a majority of Catholics worship the Pope. And I find it disgusting that not a single high-ranking Catholic official will raise their voice to condemn this kind of Nazi statement from the Vatican.

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2010, 02:37:23 AM »
It astonishes me how these people can try to teach others the Bible when they have such a poor understanding of it themselves. Where in the world do they get the idea that an eternal promise is temporary?

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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2010, 04:04:33 AM »

It must be stressed that the statement came at the end of a meeting chaired by Pope Benedict XVI, so the statement reflects his own views.
When Pope Benedict XVI came to Israel two years ago, he officially called for the creation of a "Palestinian state" as quickly as possible.
Y.Arafat, that pedophile terrorist Nazi, used to receive the honors of a great statesman from the Vatican.

We are in 2010 and nothing has changed : the Vatican is still antisemitic to the core. If I were the PM of Israel, I would cut all relations with the Vatican after a statement like that.

Popes and priests do not necessarily do what Jesus condoned. Do all Jews practice what G-d commands? There are anti-semites among Jews too you know. I would argue the percentage might be even higher. Aren't there anti-semitic rabbis? quit the bull...Didn't Chaim say that the chief rabbi in Jeruselem did things to hurt the cause for Israel?

If you read what I wrote, you should realize that your answer is wandering off the point. I was not talking about Catholics in general, but about the Vatican.
Still, the Pope is the leader of the worldwide church and a majority of Catholics worship the Pope. And I find it disgusting that not a single high-ranking Catholic official will raise their voice to condemn this kind of Nazi statement from the Vatican.
Why would they. This is obviously Vatican's official position.

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2010, 04:47:18 AM »
Catholics worship the Pope too?  :o  :D :disease:

I must be lapse in my faith.
I believe in and worship G-d.
I don't have faith in or worship symbols.
I don't worship a 'spiritual leader', or any person for that matter.

I must have a complete misunderstanding of how I should be observing my faith in G-d.  ???


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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2010, 04:58:34 AM »
This is the same old Catholic church that censored Galileo, forbade "commoners" from reading the scriptures, and made its money by selling tickets of absolution for the illiterate masses. This convention of islamic bishops took part in the Vatican with the blessing of the Pope. So unless I hear from him a complete rejection to the evils that had been spoken there, I must assume that the Pope is in agreement with them.

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Re: Catholic cleric Israel doesn't belong to the Jews
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2010, 05:53:14 AM »
Well, I'm shaking now.  Like I really care what Cleric Synod, aka- cleric snot, says.  If Netenyahu stays in  power long enough, Israel will give most of the the land away to Cleric Snot's new chosen people, the Arabs.  Snot won't have to worry about a thing.