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Who of these would be the WORST GOP candidate in the 2012 primary?

John McCain
3 (20%)
Pat Buchanan
4 (26.7%)
Sarah Palin
2 (13.3%)
Newt Gingrich
0 (0%)
Ron/Rand Paul
3 (20%)
Michelle Bachmann
0 (0%)
Joe Lieberman
3 (20%)
Other
0 (0%)

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Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« on: November 04, 2010, 10:56:38 PM »
(Note: This thread is for everyone to participate in, but I would appreciate Chaim Ben Pesach's individual response.)

Shalom Chaim,

This is a bit of a spinoff of your Huckabee poll, because much of what I am going to address here was discussed in it in a roundabout way, but I'd like to see your responses here to my analyses of each possibility listed. We have to be aware that the media is going to start, right now, doing whatever it takes to get the weakest GOP candidate nominated so that Barack Hitler Osama will have as much of a cakewalk as possible. They will find ways to start hyping the worst Republicans imaginable. (To that end, please note that I didn't list Fred Thompson here, as I agree with you that he simply isn't a viable candidate for even dogcatcher.)

With that intro out of the way, here is my list.

John McCain: Fresh off a resounding primary and general election win for his Senate seat, McCain has some momentum and, it could even be argued, is at the apogee of his much-too-long political career. The media could easily paint him as having "triumphantly" bounced back from his 2008 loss. He still has an amazingly strong background and if Arizona voters were insane enough to choose him over the real conservative J.D. Hayworth because that tramp Sarah Palin told them to, there's no reason why the nation's Republican voters wouldn't be insane enough to nominate his senile, worthless tuchis again.

Fag Buchanus: A bit of a longshot but the recent successes the Paul family has had might inspire him. Like it or not, he still has a reputation as being a fatherly figure of the conservative movement and most establishment politicians, to varying degrees, kiss his tuchis. If the economy gets really bad, latently anti-Semitic voters might gobble up his neverending Jew-bashing. If Sarah Palin endorses him, then we're in real trouble.

Sarah Palin: We have all discussed this phony whore ad nauseum, so no real introduction is needed. Of course this idiot is utterly unelectable, but we need to face the fact that at this point she still has a huge cult following, and probably the biggest individual following of any GOP potential candidate right now. Her asinine endorsements had quite a bit of sway this year, and we are making a grave mistake if we conclude that she is not dangerous to us. Even if she does not win the GOP primary, she could divide up the conservative vote enough so that another McCain-type gets the nomination.

Newt Gingrich: Like Buchanan, another slimeball who unfortunately still commands some respect in conservative circles. This filthy pig supports pornography and divorced his childhood sweetheart when she was fighting breast cancer. He is utterly unelectable (he was extremely unpopular with the general public even at his political peak in the 1990s), but like Palin, could divide the conservative vote enough so that we get another loser as our nominee.

Ron/Rand Paul: These two Buchanan clones unfortunately have a lot of momentum on their side. Ron Paul might be too old to run again but I would not put it past the media to start hyping up freshman senator Rand as a GOP candidate coming off of his Senate win in KY. If Barack Shitler Osama was "qualified" to be president serving half of one Senate term, then Rand Paul will be as well. If Rand is the GOP nominee, the NWO establishment wins either way: a--he is probably too nutty and insane to beat BHO, and b--if he does, he is an Israel-hating Nazi just like Osama is.

Michelle Bachman: This Sarah Palin clone, who supports Fag Buchanus, is seen by many as a rising star in the GOP and the media might decide to make her its favorite daughter. Otherwise, all the same commentary as for Palin applies to her as well.

Pruneface: This human cockroach supported the RINO John McCain in 2008, so what would stop him from deciding to become a full-fledged RINO himself and trying to get the GOP nomination? The media would adore him and sadly, he has a reputation as a moderate/conservative (even though he's probably to the left of Barack Hussein Osama). He is widely respected among Republicans and I suspect that more than a few Republican idiots would back him as gratitude for him supporting McCain.

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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 11:17:04 PM »
Your probably going to have to ask this on the next ask JTF since he probably doesn't have time at the moment to respond.   
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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 01:15:49 AM »
DBF,   from the standpoint of where you are going with this discussion,     I think you should add Mitt Romney to the list.      The BHO campaign and the media  ( basically the same thing )  can use Romney's former Liberal positions against him,    in terms of someone who is an artificial candidate who would do anything to get elected.      Also,   while Romney's Mormon faith wouldn't prevent me from voting for him,     there are many voters who would be reluctant to vote for Romney because he's a Mormon.      This is something that could cost him the general election.      Some could choose a 3rd party candidate in order to avoid voting for Romney or Barack Hussein Obama.       
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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 01:28:08 AM »
I think Huckabee hates Romney because he is a Mormon. As for individual voters... well, that's up to them. I don't like Mormonism but it's not like it's Islam.

Yes, Romney is a typical establishment politician and flipflopper extraordinaire, but I don't really see him doing anything gravely against the wishes of GOP voters. I'm not endorsing him yet--at this moment, I am between him and Huckabee.

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 01:59:45 AM »
If it came down to Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney,    I would prefer Huckabee.      A strong case can be made that Huckabee is best on the energy issue.   

As for Mitt Romney,  his strength is probably the economy,  which would appeal to plenty of voters.      The question remains whether this would offset the votes he would lose as a result of what I mentioned above.     
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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 04:40:28 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 04:53:42 AM »
Pruneface: This human cockroach supported the RINO John McCain in 2008, so what would stop him from deciding to become a full-fledged RINO himself and trying to get the GOP nomination? The media would adore him and sadly, he has a reputation as a moderate/conservative (even though he's probably to the left of Barack Hussein Osama). He is widely respected among Republicans and I suspect that more than a few Republican idiots would back him as gratitude for him supporting McCain.

He's a typical treacherous oil-loving worm who said Arab countries should "restraint" Hamas and Hezbollah, decieving the Israeli public into thinking the Arabs want "peace" and thus dooming Israel into a Holocaust.

He's also known for his religious support of the disasterous war in Iraq.

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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 05:23:18 AM »
Here are my thoughts on the choices that you selected.

John McCain: This is who I'm most concerned about. He did just score another victory and the democrats are starting to lose faith in their own party. They are going to want a republican who is really a democrat.

Fag Buchanus: He sure is a long shot so we don't have to worry about him. We do have to worry about the Pauls though. Ron Paul had a lot of support from libertarians who still have some leftist views. I would say these three candidates are very dangerous because they would do good for the US but would be very evil against Israel and as a result probably would fail towards the US anyway.

Sarah Palin: I don't think she can win the primaries, but she might be chosen for VP again.

Newt Gingrich: I don't think he has the charistma to win the primary, but who know.

Ron/Rand Paul: See above.

Michelle Bachman: I don't actually know who she is. She sounds Jewish.

Pruneface: No way.

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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 05:46:53 AM »

It depends on what you mean by "the worst". If you mean the most evil one, I would choose Buchanan for his pure unadulterated Nazism. If you mean the weakest one, the one most likely to make it easy for Barry Soetoro to win, I would say Sarah Palin because of her lack of competence and intelligence, to put it mildly.

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 05:55:39 AM »

On a separate note, I don't agree that M.Bachmann is the "clone" of Sarah Palin. I think Michele Bachmann is smarter and has more faith and heart.

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 05:56:56 AM »

On a separate note, I don't agree that M.Bachmann is the "clone" of Sarah Palin. I think Michele Bachmann is smarter and has more faith and heart.

she praised the Nazi Buchanan.

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 06:10:21 AM »
I think Joe Lieberman would be the worst. He would go after Israel with a vengeance just to prove that he's not beholden to Israel. Any bad decisions he made would cause more anti-Semitism.

Domestically he would push the liberal agenda as much as he could. He also supported partial birth abortion and I feel that under his adminstration it could be re-instated.

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 06:18:54 AM »
eb22, I don't want a Mormon president because it will cause more people to join that weird cult.

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2010, 07:42:01 AM »
I would vote for Dr. Brennan Fan over any of those phonies.

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2010, 07:58:30 AM »
eb22, I don't want a Mormon president because it will cause more people to join that weird cult.


Rubystars,    I respect where you are coming from.     My guess is a significant % of voters will reject Mitt Romney in the general election because he's a Mormon.     Either not voting for President or voting for a 3rd party candidate.      I'm not sure if Romney can compensate for this with those most concerned about the economy,   many who would likely would vote for him.
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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 09:07:27 AM »
Domestically he would push the liberal agenda as much as he could. He also supported partial birth abortion and I feel that under his adminstration it could be re-instated.
Exactly, he is an extreme leftist who has the reputation of a "moderate".

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2010, 12:36:26 PM »

On a separate note, I don't agree that M.Bachmann is the "clone" of Sarah Palin. I think Michele Bachmann is smarter and has more faith and heart.

she praised the Nazi Buchanan.

She could have actually agreed on some of his views for instance let's say on blacks while possibly condemning is Nazism. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2010, 12:43:00 PM »
Is not Lieberman an independent Democrat?
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 05:06:03 PM »
Is not Lieberman an independent Democrat?
He's a typical far-left Democrat who has a reputation for being "independent" and "moderate".

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 07:56:15 PM »
This kind of thread is like asking if a person would rather gauge out his own eyes or fall on a sword over and over again.    What is there to say?

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Re: Chaim, please respond to this: WORST-Case Scenario for 2012
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 08:46:12 PM »
I've read that Michelle Bachman said that G-d will curse America for going against Israel.

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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 10:44:51 PM »
Michelle Bachman: This Sarah Palin clone, who supports Fag Buchanus<<

What are you basing this on?  Are you saying Bachman supports Buchanan?  That would be odd.  Buchanan has not been a candidate for anything in ten years.

None of the people you list with the exception of Palin are candidates with serious potential.  McCain is certainly yesterday's candidate and not getting any younger.  Gingrich is not even likely to be a candidate.  Bachman is still only a relatively new Congresswoman.  Buchanan is a joke and Ron Paul is at best a third party candidate while Rand Paul is a newly elected Senator.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2010, 10:49:28 PM »
You never saw the post about her glowing speech where she referred to a Fag Buchanan column as having been responsible for "converting" a friend of hers to conservatism?

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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2010, 10:56:06 PM »
I've read that Michelle Bachman said that G-d will curse America for going against Israel.
So then I guess Rand Paul must be "pro-Israel".  ::)

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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2010, 11:06:07 PM »
You never saw the post about her glowing speech where she referred to a Fag Buchanan column as having been responsible for "converting" a friend of hers to conservatism?

I guess not, I have been very busy lately.  Thanks for the info.
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