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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2010, 06:11:07 PM »
Jews are religio-nation, Torah is what defines Jewishness and according to the Torah, a Jew is not necessarily he who was born to a Jewish mother but also one who sincerely converted through valid Torah Judaism conversion (Orthodox, though some "Orthodox" Rabbis use their titles in order to destroy Torah Judaism, among them "Rabbis" who help hundreds of thousands of Gentiles to mark V under the Jewishness clause by organizing mass "conversions, and thus are worse than both Hitler and Paraoh) - a Ger Tzedek.

The only ones who considered Judaism a race were the Nazis.

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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2010, 06:27:33 PM »
Jews are religio-nation, Torah is what defines Jewishness and according to the Torah, a Jew is not necessarily he who was born to a Jewish mother but also one who sincerely converted through valid Torah Judaism conversion (Orthodox, though some "Orthodox" Rabbis use their titles in order to destroy Torah Judaism, among them "Rabbis" who help hundreds of thousands of Gentiles to mark V under the Jewishness clause by organizing mass "conversions, and thus are worse than both Hitler and Paraoh) - a Ger Tzedek.
The only ones who considered Judaism a race were the Nazis.
The nazis considered Jews as a race! Do you really think they walk around and ask us if we religios or not? The answer is NO! Jews are not "religion nation", Jews are a nation, Judaism is religion! What are you talking about here!?!

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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2010, 09:09:22 PM »
Jews are religio-nation, Torah is what defines Jewishness and according to the Torah, a Jew is not necessarily he who was born to a Jewish mother but also one who sincerely converted through valid Torah Judaism conversion (Orthodox, though some "Orthodox" Rabbis use their titles in order to destroy Torah Judaism, among them "Rabbis" who help hundreds of thousands of Gentiles to mark V under the Jewishness clause by organizing mass "conversions, and thus are worse than both Hitler and Paraoh) - a Ger Tzedek.
The only ones who considered Judaism a race were the Nazis.
The nazis considered Jews as a race! Do you really think they walk around and ask us if we religios or not? The answer is NO! Jews are not "religion nation", Jews are a nation, Judaism is religion! What are you talking about here!?!

That's where you're mistaken.   Jewish identity has always been based on a combination of RELIGION and NATION.   It's both, and not one without the other.   Now it is time for you to learn our true history and not the lies that have been sold to you by the Israeli govt, the gentile nations, and your school teachers.   What the nazis call us is irrelevant.  How they define us is irrelevant.   We SELF-DEFINE, like any group does.   And our self-definition has always been either being born from a Jewish mother or a convert.  Anything else, not Jewish.   Like all nations, we have standards for an outsider to join us, and those standards are defined by Judaism - they involve conversion - anything else is not valid.

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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2010, 06:59:49 AM »
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That's where you're mistaken.   Jewish identity has always been based on a combination of RELIGION and NATION.   It's both, and not one without the other.   Now it is time for you to learn our true history and not the lies that have been sold to you by the Israeli govt, the gentile nations, and your school teachers.   What the nazis call us is irrelevant.  How they define us is irrelevant.   We SELF-DEFINE, like any group does.   And our self-definition has always been either being born from a Jewish mother or a convert.  Anything else, not Jewish.   Like all nations, we have standards for an outsider to join us, and those standards are defined by Judaism - they involve conversion - anything else is not valid.
Self definition is not just one book, its many books and what we manage to achive based not just on one book. The "return after exile", establishment of the jewish state and so on..
 
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Like all nations, we have standards for an outsider to join us, and those standards are defined by Judaism - they involve conversion
I don`t think you correct with this statement, outsiders can join on terms which based on Judaism but that not involving conversion as far as i know. Convertion its a free choise, unless you can explain to me what exactly you mean.   

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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2010, 08:43:23 AM »
Jews are religio-nation, Torah is what defines Jewishness and according to the Torah, a Jew is not necessarily he who was born to a Jewish mother but also one who sincerely converted through valid Torah Judaism conversion (Orthodox, though some "Orthodox" Rabbis use their titles in order to destroy Torah Judaism, among them "Rabbis" who help hundreds of thousands of Gentiles to mark V under the Jewishness clause by organizing mass "conversions, and thus are worse than both Hitler and Paraoh) - a Ger Tzedek.
The only ones who considered Judaism a race were the Nazis.
The nazis considered Jews as a race! Do you really think they walk around and ask us if we religios or not? The answer is NO! Jews are not "religion nation", Jews are a nation, Judaism is religion! What are you talking about here!?!

The Germans also considered us sub-humans that need to be murdered. Who cares what the Nazis considered us? G-d's Holy Torah (Judaism) is what defines Jewishness, not Adolf Hitler.

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Re: Throw the most evil interlopers out of Israel Russians
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2010, 08:57:23 AM »
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The Germans also considered us sub-humans that need to be murdered. Who cares what the Nazis considered us? G-d's Holy Torah (Judaism) is what defines Jewishness, not Adolf Hitler.

No my "brother", that what defines us as a different group and not primarily as a nationality. Your way of life is what you can chose for yourself, your nationality is something that you (lets just say) born with and can not change. If your mother (for example) Jewish, you can`t replace her by a decision to follow something that is not Judaism.