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Offline joshua

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Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« on: November 19, 2010, 07:51:01 AM »
A ban on circumcision in San Francisco even on religious grounds:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/19/male.circumcision.sf/index.html?hpt=C1
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 10:17:47 AM »
This is crazy.  They talk about the trauma of circumcision.  Mine was so traumatic that before I understood what circumcision was I wondered if I had been given a Bris since my father was very non observant.  In other words I had no idea that I had been circumsized until it was spelled out exactlly what circumcision was.  Not to be gross or anything but a woman from a European nation where circumcision is uncommon asked me if it was painful.  I laughed and said that I was sure that it was but I don't remember it.  I once watched a PBS special where they kept referring to it as genital mutilation and putting it in the same class as clitorectomy.  Gay guys were sitting around in a support group whining about their "loss". 

The only benefit of this is it will make Jew haters happy and it will increase business for urologists.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 10:57:04 AM »
SF is so full of it that while they whine-whine-whine about impoverished people and "liberal rights", etc, they actually deal with their homeless problem by paying the homeless people to get on a bus to Los Angeles, and from there they are not to return!

No sitting on sidewalks?  Its not hard to imagine this law targets the homeless as well.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 11:16:47 AM »
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 12:04:16 PM »
Doesn't this violate religious freedom?

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 01:01:36 PM »
I disagree with the outright ban, but: Why can't you cut it off later?

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 01:21:13 PM »
Part of the covenant with G-d is to circumcise males eight days after birth.  I don't think this initiative will translate into actual law, but I'm seeing how crazy the left is for sure.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »
Part of the covenant with G-d is to circumcise males eight days after birth.  I don't think this initiative will translate into actual law, but I'm seeing how crazy the left is for sure.


If this initative became actual law,    San Francisco would all but officially become a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 02:17:45 PM »
Part of the covenant with G-d is to circumcise males eight days after birth.  I don't think this initiative will translate into actual law, but I'm seeing how crazy the left is for sure.

Remember that Chanukah is in a couple of weeks.

Remember that the evil Hellenist greeks attempted to outlaw Circumcision also... Ancient greece is history now and the Jewish people continue to practice Circumcision.

May those who attempt to ban this important ritual suffer for their hatred of the Jewish people.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 04:04:00 PM »
Jews shouldn't live in san Francisco. Either way they can go to different town to do it. Screw Sf.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 05:08:17 PM »
Oh. In that case, numb it and cut it.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2010, 06:26:45 PM »
This is obviously a deliberately anti-Semitic law, but for the life of me I have never understood why Gentiles should be circumcised.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2010, 07:07:55 PM »
It is an attempt to place observant Jews under arrest for following the torah.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 07:59:40 PM »
It is an attempt to place observant Jews under arrest for following the torah.

Observant Jews shouldn't live in San Francisco...they should live in Israel.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2010, 09:39:20 PM »
Being circumsized lowers your chances of getting certain diseases and cancers related to the male genitalia. I can't think of any reason other than anti-semitism for SF doing this. Let them throw a moyil(hope I spelled that correctly) in jail for doing his job. Seeing SF police throwing Jews in jail for practicing their faith might wake up some liberal Jews out of their stupor.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2010, 09:41:54 PM »
Let them throw a moyil(hope I spelled that correctly) in jail for doing his job.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2010, 12:13:33 AM »
I disagree with the outright ban, but: Why can't you cut it off later?

Well, I make use of those great inventions: soap, indoor plumbing and heated water.

i do not think that is good idea. it will hurt a lot. ask muslim teens.

anyway i think this hole thing is because urologists lobbied to the mayor because they want to make more money, you know, [censored] and all that.


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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2010, 12:54:50 AM »
‎The title of this thread is misleading. This is the real title and subject of the article: 'Intactivists' to San Francisco: Ban circumcision. So some activists call for ban on circumcision. Big deal. There is no ban and not going to be any ban.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2010, 12:57:57 AM »
This is the same San Fagsisco that has homosexuals and every other disgusting display run a muck and out in the public
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2010, 12:58:15 AM »
Also one thing must be cleared- the homologous male equivalent for a so called "female circumcision" would be chopping off the glans penis along with the foreskin. 

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2010, 01:03:30 AM »
Being circumsized lowers your chances of getting certain diseases and cancers related to the male genitalia. I can't think of any reason other than anti-semitism for SF doing this. Let them throw a moyil(hope I spelled that correctly) in jail for doing his job. Seeing SF police throwing Jews in jail for practicing their faith might wake up some liberal Jews out of their stupor.

Being that I am not Jewish, I was snipped in the investment too.  So was my brother, it does keep males from having lesser chance of getting any diseases.  And going back to this article.. Zelhar is right however, just the very thought they would actually try to put this into law in a city where every sort of demonic behavior is carried out just goes to show their intent.  San Fagsisco is a disgusting deviant city.
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2010, 01:10:43 AM »
Didn't San Fransisco is where NAMBLA formed and set headquarters ? I wouldn't be surprised if there is overlap between the intactivist and the other sickos activists of San Sodomistsco.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2010, 01:12:06 AM »
Didn't San Fransisco is where NAMBLA formed and set headquarters ? I wouldn't be surprised if there is overlap between the intactivist and the other sickos activists of San Sodomistsco.

Yes it is a very sick perverted city
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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2010, 05:11:38 AM »
Being that I am not Jewish, I was snipped in the investment too.  So was my brother, it does keep males from having lesser chance of getting any diseases.  And going back to this article.. Zelhar is right however, just the very thought they would actually try to put this into law in a city where every sort of demonic behavior is carried out just goes to show their intent.  San Fagsisco is a disgusting deviant city.
It only keeps you from "having diseases" and/or cancer if you are promiscuous and have sex with people who have HPV. The idea that circumcision is needed for all males as a matter of health is just myth.

Like I said before, I have not seen a good reason why non-Jewish boys should be circumcised as a matter of routine.

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Re: Circumcision Ban in San Fran
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2010, 05:21:15 AM »
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is part of our commitment to God. We believe we do it in a very humane, loving, supportive way," said Blake, who performs religious and non-religious circumcisions for boys, as well as naming ceremonies for girls. "There are certainly many places in the world where a ban on circumcision is one of the prongs of an anti-Semitic movement -- anti-Jewish and also anti-Muslim."

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Anti-Muslim, she added, because she knows, that this argument has more weight in a leftist society, where Anti-zionism and mocking the God of the Bible seems to be a part of good manners.
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