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Offline The Noachide

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Ask the Noachide
« on: December 20, 2010, 06:25:07 PM »
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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2010, 06:32:24 PM »
Are you a Noachide or is that just a user name? If so, why.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2010, 09:19:49 PM »
Because I am not a Jew. I renounced my former religion to become noahide.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2010, 09:27:35 PM »
What religion were you before you became a Noachide?

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 02:05:26 AM »
This is going to raise some eyebrows, I used to be muslim.
All of my relatives are muslim except me.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 02:36:05 PM »
This is going to raise some eyebrows, I used to be muslim.
All of my relatives are muslim except me.


Congratulations for leaving that disgusting cult. Are you afraid of your relatives? Will they hurt you if they find out you left Islam?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 03:48:44 PM »
You are aware that apostasy is punishable by death according to many Muslim scholars, and that many former Muslims have been killed for that reason ?

What do you think of Islam ?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 04:07:50 PM »
This is going to raise some eyebrows, I used to be muslim.
All of my relatives are muslim except me.


Congratulations for leaving that disgusting cult. Are you afraid of your relatives? Will they hurt you if they find out you left Islam?


Afraid yes. and most likely become disowned.


You are aware that apostasy is punishable by death according to many Muslim scholars, and that many former Muslims have been killed for that reason ?

What do you think of Islam ?

Certainly aware of the consequences. I always thought the religion is dangerous in my young years and did not want to tell any of the muslim friends and always said to myself this can't be the true religion if violence around the world keeps happening in the hands of islamic extremists. The whole religion is just weird to me especially about the kabaa being built by Adam, then got destroyed, and then rebuilt by Abraham. I find muhammed to be boring.

So I remained halal and always refrained from adultery but I was never religious until 2 years after 911 when I researched all three Abrahamic faiths for several years to reach the conclusion that I find Judaism the one true religion.


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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2010, 04:26:32 PM »
I find muhammed to be boring.

Don't you think he is far worse than "boring" ? Is it really the appropriate word that comes to your mind when thinking about this man ?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 04:46:07 PM »
I find muhammed to be boring.

Don't you think he is far worse than "boring" ? Is it really the appropriate word that comes to your mind when thinking about this man ?

Not exactly the right word for his actions. I was referring to his revelation about his illiteracy, a spider that saved his life, then became a prophet through dreams after reciting the quran, and then miraculously became literate.
It just seems superstitious. It's like going to a psychic teller for a fortune.
 

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 05:02:43 PM »
I find muhammed to be boring.

Don't you think he is far worse than "boring" ? Is it really the appropriate word that comes to your mind when thinking about this man ?

Not exactly the right word for his actions. I was referring to his revelation about his illiteracy, a spider that saved his life, then became a prophet through dreams after reciting the quran, and then miraculously became literate.
It just seems superstitious. It's like going to a psychic teller for a fortune.

Let's say he was superstitious. What about the fact that he practiced and promoted theft, lie, rape, murder, pedophilia ?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2010, 05:37:43 PM »
Hello. Can you tell us a little bit more of your background. Like Which country does your family come from ?

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2010, 05:44:39 PM »
This is exactly one reason I left islam. I found him to be a terrible role model. An example I can't seem to ever condone if he murdered people in cold blood. According to muslim scholars and imams, the Jews of Quraza tribe wanted to murder mohammed. That is why Jews are loathed by Muslims.

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2010, 05:51:38 PM »
Hello. Can you tell us a little bit more of your background. Like Which country does your family come from ?

Without going into too personal details of myself, I'm a US born citizen of Yemenite descent.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 04:05:29 PM »
How do you feel about Christians? Would you ever have any Christian friends?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2010, 04:13:23 PM »
Do Noachides have something like an organized institutions, like synagogues or something ?

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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2010, 05:39:39 PM »
How do you feel about Christians? Would you ever have any Christian friends?

Apparently, being from the states I do have many Christian friends as well a few Jewish friends from my homeland country.
how do I feel about Christians you asked?  No thoughts in particular. I don't care what religion a person follows or if they're atheist. I like the fact it is a melting pot society with plenty of diversity among people and cultures.


Do Noachides have something like an organized institutions, like synagogues or something ?

According to a rabbi I spoke to, synagogues are not necessary for noachides.
Noachides still do follow Judaism and have organizations.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2010, 08:26:52 PM »
Shalom Noachide,

I have found the following websites which provide great information for Noachides.

http://noahidenations.com/

http://www.noahide.org/

http://www.bnti.us/

http://www.bnti.us/links/bnai_noach_links.html

I want to say Yasher Koach Noachide... It warms my heart to know that people are finding the truth of Hashem through our Torah. The Jewish people should be proud of you and your congregation...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 03:00:04 PM »
This thread made me think of this song. "Returning to the universe, give out the word, abandon earth"

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 05:22:29 PM »
Congratulations on leaving Islam.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 10:51:18 AM »
Now that it's permitted, have you tried pork products?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2011, 08:33:58 PM »
Now that it's permitted, have you tried pork products?

you're kidding right?

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2011, 09:24:42 PM »
Now that it's permitted, have you tried pork products?

you're kidding right?


Why would I be kidding? I thought you were allowed to eat them now that you're not a Muslim anymore and since you haven't adopted actual Judaism but are a Noahide.

Think of it this way, what better way to make a final break with any Islamic thought.
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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2011, 10:48:29 PM »
Now that it's permitted, have you tried pork products?

you're kidding right?


Why would I be kidding? I thought you were allowed to eat them now that you're not a Muslim anymore and since you haven't adopted actual Judaism but are a Noahide.

Think of it this way, what better way to make a final break with any Islamic thought.


I rather you shoot me in the chest than me eating a disgusting animal such as a pig. It smells awful for crying out loud. Jews do not consume pork. Are you a Jew? I follow what's right including abstaining from pork and any immoral acts.
I really want to be a Jew but I can't for two reasons: one is because it is very difficult to do Ger and the other is my family risking an isolation.

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Re: Ask the Noachide
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2011, 10:58:13 PM »
As for islamic break, I do drink sometimes :)