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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2011, 04:47:28 PM »
An interesting fact here...considering 2009 and money from oil. Take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pVQWdc7aBQ&feature=player_embedded#at=609

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2011, 10:58:06 AM »
Delegation from Serbia in Jamhiriya TV(Libya).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10gCH_bPV9Y&feature=youtu.be

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2011, 04:44:55 AM »
Interview with Dr. Salem Finir (Libyan Ambassador in BiH)

http://videobam.com/wAIGy
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2011, 02:42:06 PM »
It is not my text but it is interesting to read:


Western oil companies have made a great deal of money with the Gadaffi administration. The US, in particular, following sanctions, “adopted a number of return strategies, from buying back old oil concessions (Marathon and ConocoPhillips), winning bids for new blocs (Chevron and ExxonMobil) or a combination of both (Amerada Hess and Oxy).” Since 2005 “there have been three Exploration and Production Sharing rounds in which exploration areas have been competitively bid to foreign companies.” As a result, “several new one-off deals” had been “concluded, including “massive deals with Shell and British Petroleum,” and a 25 year extension of Italian company ENI (Wikileaks, Tripoli 967).

The close relationship did not end here. In terms of arms trading to the region, the US and the EU have been very friendly indeed. An article in the Associated Press cites the fact that “the US government quietly green-lighted a $77 million deal to provide at least 50 refurbished amored troop carriers to Moammar Gadaffi’s army.” This deal “signaled growing American business contracts with his regime in the months before Libya imploded in civil war” (17 April 2011). Writing in the Guardian, Simon Rogers notes that the European Union contributed a staggering “843.5 mill Euros worth of arms exports in the first five years after the arms embargo with Libya was lifted.” In 2009 alone, some “343.7 million Euros worth of arms sales were conducted with the Gadaffi Regime” (‘EU arms exports to Libya’, Guardian: 1 March 2011). The UK in particular approved 214.8 million strategic export licenses to the region, 25 of which we know for certain were used for military purposes. NGO Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT) writes that the UK government is responsible for “the export of goods including tear gas and crowd control ammunition and sniper rifles to Bahrain Libya, as well as a wide range of other miltary equipment to authoritarian regimes in the region (18 February 2011).

Like any trade relationship, the spoils are two-way: with Gadaffi selling oil to the west, and the west selling arms to Gadaffi. However, the good terms of this relationship were imperiled on two counts: the first in regard to Gadaffi’s decision to nationalize Libyan oil reserves; the second in regard to his attacks on the UN Security Council. From the slew of Tripoli-to-Washington cables published by Wikileaks it becomes immediately clear that the US worried about how to secure future oil contracts with Libya. On 15 November 2007, one cable expresses the worry that “those who dominate Libya’s political and economic leadership are pursuing increasingly nationalistic policies in the energy sector that could jeopardize efficient exploitation of Libya’s extensive oil and gas reserves” (Tripoli 967) Another cable, written on 17 June 2008, records how the Libyan government “has been pressing all International Oil Companies to accept further reductions in their production share allocations to increase Libya’s take” (Tripoli 474). Five months later, it is relayed how Gadaffi plans to “implement dramatic government restructuring” and “directly distribute shares of oil revenue to the Libyan people” (Tripoli 896). The evident concern is that a nationalized oil industry, that is, an oil industry whose proceeds will go directly to the people, enforces an alternative growth model to that used in the west. A fully socialized economic structure where wealth is distributed for the good of the nation, and thereby diverted away from western interests, agitated the west greatly. It is therefore logical to suppose that western oil companies wanted to take Libyan oil at the cheapest rate possible. Gadaffi’s regime posed a problem in this regard.

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2011, 12:14:24 AM »
Sudan deploys troops at Libya border, evicts envoy

 


KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudan has deployed troops at the Libyan border to prevent arms smuggling to rebels in Darfur and closed the Libyan consulate in the troubled region, a government official said on Wednesday.

Sudan shares an almost 400km-long border with Libya where a civil war against leader Muammar Qadhafi has split the desert state into a government-held western area around the capital Tripoli and an eastern region held by rebels.

"We deployed troops at the border to Libya because we are worried about arms smuggling [to rebels]," Khalid Musa, spokesman for the Sudanese foreign ministry, said.

Sudan closed the Libyan consulate in Al Fasher in Darfur and asked staff to leave within 48 hours after Libya had closed the Sudanese consulate in the eastern town of al-Kufrah, Musa said.

"We summoned the Libyan ambassador for an explanation why the consulate was closed but his answer came too late and was not satisfactory so we closed the Libyan consulate," he said.

There is little love lost between Qadhafi and Sudanese President Omar Hassan Al Bashir, who was indicted by the International Criminal Court for genocide and other war crimes in Darfur.

Relations were strained between Libya and Sudan after Qadhafi agreed to offer refuge to Darfur rebel Justice and Equality Movement chief Khalil Ibrahim, who had left peace talks in Qatar to return to fighting in Darfur.

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2011, 12:41:42 AM »
Sudanese broke into Libya


Sudanese troops broke into Libya. Gaddafi has threatened to attack Europe if NATO continues to bomb Libya. After the speech a series of explosions followed in Tripoli. Eight powerful explosions in Misurata.

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has interrupted his days-long silence with rather brave threat that if NATO does not suspend the operation of air strikes on Libya, the war will spread to Europe, and the "homes, offices and families would become legitimate targets."

Sound recording of Gadaffi's speech was broadcast before the tens of thousands of his supporters in the main square in Tripoli, a few hours after the Libyan army hell-fire by rocket launchers broke rebels' advancing on the southern front and urged them to withdraw.

"These people are willing to, one day, bring the war in Europe ..." If we decide we can go to Europe like locusts, like bees. You are advised to withdraw before you experience a disaster ",said Gaddafi, and the enthusiastic masses chanted slogans against the West.

Besides the mass excitement, Gaddafi's speech was followed by a series of explosions in Tripoli, while NATO planes flew over the city. The least popular foreign leader in Tripoli, however, is French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

Sudanese troops broke into Libya

Sudanese troops entered without a fight on Libyan territory and occupied the town of Kufra and the nearby military base, but so far there are no indications of what the intention of President Omar Bashir's army is, as soldiers do not try to extract the oil from Libya.


Sudanese soldier

First Sudanese forces entered in Libya two weeks ago, but it seems that no one cared about it, and Sudanese now present protection for two oil fields that the rebels are holding - Mislah and Sarir.

The circumstances under which Sudanese entered in Libya are not known, but international organizations has recorded that some 2,000 people, mostly workers from Chad, fled the area.

NATO preparing an invasion?

At least it says Russian Ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, who believes that recent events in Libya suggest that NATO, or at least some members of the Alliance, prepare ground operation in Libya.

(Radio Television of Serbia)
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
The inter fighting between Gaddafi and rebels shall get more and more intensified. The nato shall get more and more involved actively in the incessant war. Let the vipers swallow each other. They shall pay for the damages done to Serbia at least in this manner if not otherwise.
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2011, 07:39:00 AM »
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2011, 02:28:31 PM »
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2011, 09:38:05 AM »
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« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2011, 05:02:57 PM »
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2011, 09:25:41 AM »
Supporting muzzi again hey Serbs?

 So many bombs wasted on Libiya when i know somwhere better for them to be dropped!  ;D

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2011, 10:00:25 PM »
Who cares about libyans anyway? Let's nuke them!
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2011, 08:03:19 AM »
Who cares about libyans anyway? Let's nuke them!

How can somebody even say something like that?
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2011, 02:30:48 PM »
How can somebody even say something like that?


What do you even mean? Are you pro-Islam?
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2011, 02:57:17 PM »
I don't choose my friends and enemies based on their religion.

I am neither pro-Islam nor anti-Islam.

I am ANTIGLOBAL.
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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2011, 02:48:18 AM »


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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2011, 10:36:23 PM »
Supporting muzzi again hey Serbs?

 So many bombs wasted on Libiya when i know somwhere better for them to be dropped!  ;D

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Again? How old are u, 5?!

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Re: NATO agression on Lybya
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2011, 10:45:04 PM »
Libya is a Muslim country however the situation is identical to Iraq, the country under Gadaffi was weak and was not really a big threat similar to Iraq under Hussein, but because Iraq was taken out of the picture, Iran has complete dominion with a new government in power, the same will happen in Syria as it has happened in Egypt but at least Israel will know who it's real enemies are now.