Where from here after death of Bin Laden?

[Ithaca-37]

First, it's surely great news, and some small piece of justice for 9/11.

HOWEVER, for as long as men have fought wars, it's been shown that the response of the enemy to the death of a major leader can range from a back-breaking blow (Hitler in Nazi Germany), to continued determination to pursue the war (Roosevelt's fatal stroke in early 1945), and anything in between.

Remember, we're not dealing with a nation here, we're dealing with an ideology, a loose collection of loose cannons.  If we follow the Israeli experience, my guess is that some of these Muslim terrorists will choose to lay low for a time, while others are making plans right now.

The United States is a nation filled with soft targets, and in our utter stupidity, our braintrust in Washington, DC has allowed continued Muslim immigration.  My guesstimate is that you'll see a Tet-like effort in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, plus something like the Fort Hood here in the United States.

I'm curious as to the opinions of others on this board.

And as for those who wonder about the political impact, that's perhaps an ill-timed point-of-discussion, but my bet is that this will have little long-term impact.  Those who dislike Obama will say "It's about time", and those who consider him the second coming will just be reinforced.

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[Dr. Dan]

Osama's assassination is just a drop in the bucket.  I bet you the majority of Americans will forget about this news when they hear news about Kate Middleton's pregnancy.

[The One and Only Mo]

Notice how Obama made it clear in his speech that we aren't at a war against Islam.

[Rubystars]

The same ones that will lay low for a while are the ones that are making plans.

[muman613]

It would be nice to take down Al-Awalaki.... He is a imam who inspired several recent terrorist attacks. It would be a coup if America could put down this islamic turd.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Anwar al-Awlaki



Anwar al-Awlaki
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anwar al-Awlaki (also spelled Aulaqi; Arabic: أنور العولقي‎ Anwar al-‘Awlaqī; born April 22, 1971 (1971-04-22) (age 40) in Las Cruces, New Mexico) is a dual citizen of the U.S. and Yemen, of Yemeni descent.[9] He is an Islamic lecturer, spiritual leader, and former imam who has inspired Islamic terrorists against the West. According to U.S. officials, he is a senior talent recruiter and motivator, who has also become “operational” as a planner and trainer, "for al-Qaeda and all of its franchises".[3][7][10][11][12][13] The U.S. Under Secretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence warned that al-Awlaki "is extraordinarily dangerous, committed to carrying out deadly attacks on Americans and others worldwide".[6] With a blog, a Facebook page, and many YouTube videos, he has been described as the "bin Laden of the Internet".[14][15]

Al-Awlaki's sermons were attended by three of the 9/11 hijackers. He reportedly met privately with two of them in San Diego. Investigators suspect al-Awlaki may have known about the 9/11 attacks in advance.[16] In 2009, he was promoted to the rank of "regional commander" within al-Qaeda, according to U.S. officials.[4][17]

His sermons were also attended by accused Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan. U.S. intelligence intercepted at least 18 emails between Hasan and al-Awlaki in the months prior to the Fort Hood shooting, including one in which Hasan wrote: "I can't wait to join you [in the afterlife]."[18][19] After the shooting, al-Awlaki praised Hasan's actions.[20][21] In addition, "Christmas Day bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab said al-Awlaki was one of his al-Qaeda trainers, who met with him and was involved in planning or preparing his attack, and provided religious justification for it, according to U.S. officials.[22][23][24] In March 2010, al‑Awlaki said in a videotape that jihad against America was binding upon every able Muslim.[25][26]

Al-Awlaki's targeted killing was approved by U.S. President Barack Obama, with the consent of the U.S. National Security Council by April 2010, making him the first U.S. citizen ever placed on the CIA target list. Officials said it was appropriate, as he poses an imminent danger to national security.[27][28][29][30] In May 2010, Faisal Shahzad, who pled guilty to the 2010 Times Square car bombing attempt, told interrogators he was "inspired by" al-Awlaki. Sources said Shahzad had made contact with al-Awlaki over the internet.[31][32][33] U.S. Representative Jane Harman called him "terrorist number one", and Investor's Business Daily called him "the world's most dangerous man".[34][35] In July 2010, the U.S. Treasury Department added him to its list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists, and the UN added him to its list of individuals associated with al-Qaeda.[5][36] In August 2010, al-Awlaki's father sued the U.S. government with the ACLU, challenging its order to kill al-Awlaki, but a federal judge dismissed the lawsuit in December 2010.[37][38] In November 2010, Yemen began trying al-Awlaki in absentia with plotting to kill foreigners and being a member of al-Qaeda, and a Yemeni judge ordered that he be captured "dead or alive".[39][40] In a video posted to the internet in November 2010, al-Awlaki called for Muslims around the world to kill Americans “without hesitation”, and overthrow Arab leaders.[41] He is believed to be in hiding in Southeast Yemen.[39]

[Debbie Shafer]

You know there will be recruits to take Bin Laden's place.....911, The U.S.S. Cole, and other attacks were committed by Muslims....Obama gets it wrong again!

[muman613]

It would be wonderful if this schmendrik got his justice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Gadahn

Adam Yahiye Gadahn (Arabic: آدم يحيى غدن‎, Ādam Yaḥyā Ghadan; born Adam Pearlman, September 1, 1978) is an American senior operative, cultural interpreter, spokesman[2] and media advisor[3] for the terrorist group Al-Qaeda. Since 2004, he appeared in a number of videos produced by Al-Qaeda as "Azzam the American" ('[censored]ām al-Amrīki, عزام الأمريكي, sometimes transcribed as Ezzam Al-Amerikee). Gadahn converted to Sunni Islam in 1995, at the age of 17, at a California mosque and is described as a "homegrown", meaning that he has converted to an ideology so firmly that he is now willing to harm his country of origin.[2] He is believed to have inspired the 2007 Osama bin Laden video.[3]

In 2004, he was added to the FBI Seeking Information – War on Terrorism list.[4] On October 11, 2006 he was removed from that list, and placed on the Bureau of Diplomatic Security Rewards for Justice Program list of wanted criminals.[5] On the same day, Gadahn was indicted based on the testimony of the FBI case agent E.J. Hilbert II, in the Southern Division of the United States District Court for the Central District of California by a federal grand jury for the capital crime of treason for aiding an enemy of the United States (i.e. Al-Qaeda). Gadahn is the first American charged with treason since Tomoya Kawakita in 1952.[6]

[muman613]

And while we are looking for muslim nazis lets also put this one to rest in the deep sea...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri

Ayman al-Zawahiri
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Ayman Muhammad Rabaie al-Zawahiri [1] (Arabic: أيمن محمد ربيع الظواهري‎, ʾAyman Muḥammad Rabīʿ aẓ-Ẓawāhirī; born June 19, 1951) is a leader of al-Qaeda, and was the second and last "emir" of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, having succeeded Abbud al-Zummar in the latter role when Egyptian authorities sentenced al-Zummar to life imprisonment. While Al-Zawahiri is reportedly a qualified surgeon, he has shown a deep and radical understanding of Islamic theology and Islamic history. He speaks Arabic, English[2][3] and French. Al-Zawahiri is under worldwide sanctions by the United Nations Security Council 1267 Committee as a member or affiliate of al-Qaeda.[4]

In 1998, al-Zawahiri formally merged the Egyptian Islamic Jihad into al-Qaeda. According to reports by a former al-Qaeda member, he has worked in the al-Qaeda organization since its inception and was a senior member of the group's shura council. He was often described as a "lieutenant" to Osama bin Laden, though bin Laden's chosen biographer has referred to him as the "real brains" of al-Qaeda.[5] As of May 2, 2011, he is the primary target and sole figurehead of al-Qaeda due to the death of bin Laden.