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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2007, 03:06:11 PM »
Death to Arabs!
They have no place in Israel
As long as in the heart, within,
A Jewish soul is yearning,
And towards the end of the East
An eye still watches toward Zion,

Our hope is not yet lost,
The hope of two thousand years,
To be a free nation in our own land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.

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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2007, 06:15:40 PM »
These sand bipeds have no business in any western country.

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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2007, 09:58:16 PM »
Chaim has said that the last thing we should be concerned with is "increasing anti-Semitism".

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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2007, 10:07:59 PM »
Chaim has said that the last thing we should be concerned with is "increasing anti-Semitism".
There is a great difference between vandalizing and planned removal of old cemeteries.

By vandalizing a grave you achieve nothing. If you are brave, let’s get the real problem out of our way. But fighting with the dead is as lowest level as you can get.

It is not a matter of Anti-Semitism or Pro-Semitism, it is a matter of self-respect.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2007, 10:08:33 PM »
2000 years of history has proven that everything Jewish we do increases antisemitism.  The best way to increase anti-semitism is to stand up for yourself.  If Israel actually faught terrorism, exposed the fraud of the bolistinian, annexed the land, "transfered" the treasonous elements, ended these economically bankrupted Socialist schemas and imposed Jewishness within every aspect of its society the result would be a strong, productive, moral Jewish nation......HATED by this increasingly Socialist debased World...  

Strong Jews increase anti-semitism...  weak or dead Jews do not...

PS: It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.  The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion.....
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2007, 12:00:42 AM »
I agree with your first paragraph.

In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”

Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.

You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”

I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2007, 07:31:34 AM »
I agree with your first paragraph.

In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”

Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.

You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”

I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
The comment on land reclamation concerning this issue would be comparable to cleaning up a Hazardous Waste situation or superfund site like love cannal in America.  I was being facieses calling it a project.  An Environmental project.....  Actually, I'd think that the Muslims themselves would be happy to have their relatives burried on/in Islamic holy sands of Arabia?   

Of course the live ones are a problem, that goes without saying....  The dead ones, like the mosques, could blessedly be "transfered" to Arabia where the followers of Mohammed and Allah belong. 

Is that Robert DeNiro in your picture.  I was happy when I got his autograph but later depressed in finding that he is an ultra-Leftist...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2007, 08:13:41 AM »
Question:

What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be?  How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?

I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2007, 09:06:48 AM »
Question:

What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be?  How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?

I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
Even if it isn't actually human corpses that are buried?

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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2007, 09:56:47 AM »
Question:

What do the rabbis and Talmud say about land reclamation where graves used to be?  How should the corpses be handled and where are they placed and when is it ok to do it if ever?

I'm sorry, in Judaism, you can't just go and bulldoze dead corpses..i don't care who is in that grave!
Even if it isn't actually human corpses that are buried?

If there aren't homo sapian bones in the grave..then bull doze away...

If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2007, 12:06:56 PM »
I agree with your first paragraph.

In the post scriptum you say: “It is not called fighting the dead but land reclaimation.....or a good public work project.”

Reclaiming from whom, the dead or live Arabs? Plus, I did not know it was a project.

You further say: “The presence of Moslems on HaShem's holy soil is a shame...a sin...a chilul HaShem in my opinion”

I hope you were talking about the live Arabs, who are literally ON the holy soil. The dead Arabs however are IN the holy soil.
The comment on land reclamation concerning this issue would be comparable to cleaning up a Hazardous Waste situation or superfund site like love cannal in America.  I was being facieses calling it a project.  An Environmental project.....  Actually, I'd think that the Muslims themselves would be happy to have their relatives burried on/in Islamic holy sands of Arabia?   

Of course the live ones are a problem, that goes without saying....  The dead ones, like the mosques, could blessedly be "transfered" to Arabia where the followers of Mohammed and Allah belong. 

Is that Robert DeNiro in your picture.  I was happy when I got his autograph but later depressed in finding that he is an ultra-Leftist...

I am more than sure that you wanted Robert DeNiro's autograph not because he was a right-wing politician, but a wonderful actor.
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2007, 01:02:41 PM »
Why should Jews respect the burial sites of Nazis who did everything in their power to kill them when they were alive?

How many Jewish cemeteries in Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, etc. were preserved after 1948?

I've seen quite a few jewish villages in Morocco, there are quite a lot of humble jews who are still living there. Even in some of the large cities i've seen Jews. In Algeria however they were excluded completely.

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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2007, 03:07:27 PM »
Well, I'll stick to my original position as history dictates it is justifiable that absolutely nothing Islamic should be within any place inside the borders of Aretz.  The Islamic horde had not problem desecrating any and everything Jewish in their dozens of tin pot despotic dictatorships, even graves.  It is not a situation of “we doing like them” as their ideologies and deed are very different, has history depicts, than Jewish. 

I will not bother to defend my position because it speaks for itself.  Oh yes, I did get the autograph because he was a very good actor but now when I look at it I get depressed because such a good actor holds such a vile political and social values/beliefs.
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2007, 03:50:41 PM »
I've seen quite a few jewish villages in Morocco, there are quite a lot of humble jews who are still living there.
Yeah, and they are certainly not safe. Morocco has more trade with the West than Algeria, so it kisses up a little more, but believe me, they live as dhimmi subhumans over there, and if they don't make aliyah soon they won't even live like that.

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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2007, 03:59:53 PM »
Re:  "...I am more than sure that you wanted Robert DeNiro's autograph not because he was a right-wing politician, but a wonderful actor..."

Now that you're disillusioned with him, you should call him Robert D. Negro  :laugh:

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« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2007, 04:01:49 PM »
As usual, you come up with the witticisms that seem obvious, but that nobody else seems to think of.  :D ;)

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« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2007, 08:31:02 AM »
Good post Massuh.  The Muslims are Amalek.  The Quraan says it, the Hadith places it forward very accurately.  These vermin do not disserve peace or "tolerance" in life or death.  Get the D-9's out and doze them back to Arabia or the Sea to make a needed wave break for a new marina outside a new Jewish beach front community.  The Muslims have no business being in Israel, get rid of their Mosques, and get rid of everything....Islamic....even the Arabic language...OUT of Eretz...  "Drive them out" says HaShem...
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2007, 09:28:34 AM »
doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.

Are you kidding? They've never needed ANY excuse. What possible difference could it make??

Personally,I reckon a moslem grave is the best place to take a dump after eating too much pork BBQ......and I never forget my 2ply koran. :laugh:

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« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2007, 12:13:10 AM »
This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).

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« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2007, 08:43:42 AM »
This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).

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« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2007, 04:45:09 PM »
This is obviously bad news. One should respect even one's worst enemies in the most basic ways as the human beings they are. All this hatred says to me is that you're taking sides based on your feelings and which side you're already on. Quite disgusting. (And this from someone who thinks nuking Mecca would be sweet).
One should not show any respect for one's worst enemies themselves but perhaps their techniques or will but not themselves.  This is why there is the Jewish saying is "May the names and memory of this (enemy) be erased from history."  Not hatred at all but logic.  This is the logic behind Genesis 34 for example.  One must eliminate evilness (Amalek) never to appease it.  This also was the logic when HaShem told Joshaua to "Drive out" all the Amalek from the Land of Israel or they will be "Thorns in thine eyes and thistles in thy side".  As you can see, this is the reason today Israel and the rest of the World is such a horrible situation.  Without evilness this world would be Holy.  Of course the aforementioned logic only applies to the Land of Israel and not to the "Protocol" Jewish World Domination myth. 

Too one must remember that one reason why the Bible was given to separate the Human from Animals which one sees taking part in all the non-Judeo-Christian worlds.  Well, I agree with your last thought but the former is illogical and immoral in my opinion.....my opinion... ;)
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Re: Jews vandalize Muslim graves near Ariel
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2007, 08:33:03 AM »
doing stupid unnecessary sht like that will only increase violece against onther Jews and Jewish semetaries, it will give the anti-semites in europe and around the world a justification in their minds of doing the same to Jewish graves, saying if jews do it to others we can do it to them. andyway it in no way solves the problem of the current Alive arabs who unlike their dead, do pose a harm to the people of Israel.

Are you kidding? They've never needed ANY excuse. What possible difference could it make??

Personally,I reckon a moslem grave is the best place to take a dump after eating too much pork BBQ......and I never forget my 2ply koran. :laugh:

Since when Pork is cosher Newman?
I agree partialy with Rosh it won't help the Jewish cause although true hardline nazi/muslim antisemites won't give damn what Jews do only if they still live...
But here we're Torrah movement what Tanath and Talmud is speaking about graves of enemies? Even murderer shall be buried not left hanging; Jezebel remains were buried too... We shoud realy concentrate on filling the graves with muslims not empting them. ::)
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2007, 01:34:44 PM »
Agreed!  Then pave them over for a nice parking lot for a shopping center.....  Or grass them over for a park for the Jewish children to play in.... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.