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Re: Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2011, 03:58:23 PM »
http://www.milknhoney.co.il/torah/yitro3.html

Yitro - Converting to Judaism

In our Perasha Moshe Rabienu's father in-law, Yitro, comes to visit Moshe. Yitro previously was a priest from Midyan. He came when Benie Yisrael were still at the foot of Mount Sinai. He had heard about everything that G-d did for Benie Yisrael. According to certain Midrashim, when he heard what had happened he converted to Judaism.

With regards to Avraham Avinu it is said that whoever brings a gentile close to G-d it is considered he created that person.

During the time of the Second Beit Hamikdash many felt that the Laws in the Torah were Universal. Therefore, many actually missionized. Others who did not missionize still were very accepting of all those who wanted to convert.

There are famous stories about insincere converts who were converted by the famous Tana Hillel. Each one came to him after being turned away by Shamai. One wanted to be converted on condition that he only need to follow biblical Torah but not Rabbinic. Another wanted to be converted if he could learn the torah on one foot. Still another was into the fine clothing worn by the Cohen Gadol. He wanted to be converted only if he could become Cohen Gadol.

After some time passed all of these converts met each other. By this time they had overcome their eccentricities and were dedicated, observant Jews. They praised Hillel for accepting them with their problems.

Akilas the convert was Hadrian the Wicked's nephew. When Akilas wanted to convert he told Hadrian, who responded by saying that he had oppressed and killed many Jews. Akilas told him that even the smallest children know how G-d created the world.

This movement of Tanaim clearly beleived that Torah is good for all of Humanity. If it is good for all of humanity then certainly we should not keep it to ourselves.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2011, 12:43:09 PM »
Obama, Anti-christ or False Prophet?

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Re: Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2011, 01:15:54 AM »
Time for Holy War

Time for the genocide (against muslims)


Q.: Why is Africa such a [censored]-hole?
A.: Because no Jews ever lived there.

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Re: Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2011, 01:14:21 PM »
I'm starting to think you people are a bit crazy?

I just joined these forums today and I already have seen these:
1. threats to commit genocide
2. destruction and stealing of property
3. racism and hatred at its greatest
4. claims that G-d is an estate agent


Jerusalem is illegally occupied land weather you like it or not... The fact that Israel annexed East Jerusalem to itself, is illegal as well!

You people are acting as if G-d is an estate agent or something... Religion isn't great reasoning to who land belongs to... There are numerous claims for Palestine, especially because the Jews and Hebrews were NOT the first people of Palestine!

So, lets look into this one, if you really are going to take it seriously... Who were these promises made to exactly? The first promise of Palestine to the descendants of Abraham was the Shechem(Nablus) in Genesis xxi, 7: 'Unto thy seed will I give this land.' Ch. xiii, 15, when Abraham is standing on a hill near Bethel, his words are as follows: 'all the land which thou seest to thee will I give it and to thy seed for ever'. These promises are repeated to Isaac and to Jacob. Where these promises for the Jews alone? No, actually the Bible says 'to thy seed', this includes Christians and Muslims through the seed of Ishmael. The land of Canaan was promised as "an everlasting possession", it was Ishmael and Isaac had not been born yet. Also, the hospitality of Jethro and Midianite, who was Arab, and Moses' father in law...

Now comes to the idea, was this land irrevocable? The words "everlasing" is what is now used. Although, "everlasting" is indeed not the proper meaning of the Hebrew original. The word 'olam means "a long time". According to Moses in the 28th ch. of Deuteronomy... "it shall come to pass if thou wilt not herken unto the voice of the Lord thy G-d to observe to do all his commandments curses shall come upon thee and shall overtake thee... And the lord shall scatter you among the peoples, from the one end of the earth; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which though hast not known, thou nor thy fathers, even wood and stone. And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, and there shall be no rest for the sole of thy foot; but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart and failing of eyes, and pinning of soul; and thy life shall hang in doubt before thee..." Here its clear that the promises to the patriarchs have been overturned. When the Assyrian captivity removed the population of Samaria, and the Babylonian captivity of the people of Judah, the prophets saw the divine justice on disobedient people.



Although, think of me just coming up to your house and saying, "G-d gave me the land and my ancestors may have lived here 3000 years ago! MOVE OUT!" Think of how silly you will think I am! Infact, you would probably think I'm a lunatic!

LOL. We the Jews pee on your "international law" and are proud occupiers of Eretz Yisrael
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Re: Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2011, 04:22:43 AM »
Its amazed me how hes survived for so long !  Ref Operation Foxley {WIKI]  >:(