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jdl4ever:

--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on June 10, 2007, 06:11:45 PM ---You know Rav Kaduri zt'l worked till he was 87 as a bookbinder.

Rav Ginsburg shlita is a theoretical mathematician

The Lubavitcher Rebbe was an engineer and worked at the New York Shipyards designing Submarines during WWII

Even until this day many Tzadikim of the Nationalistic variety work as well as learn.

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Well, these were the last of the Rabbis.  The Rabbis who follow the old tradition is rapidly declining and disappearing, and this new nonsense is replacing our religion and spreading everywhere. 

Lubab:
Thank you JDL4ever for this.

I would just note that for a minority of people it may be appropriate to work out an arrangement where one learns and the other works and supports the one who learns. This was the arrangement that was in place by fathers of the Tribes Yissachar (learned all day) and Zevulun (did business and supported Yissachar).

Chaim did say in a previous AskJTF that in a Kahanist run Israel some would be allowed to learn full time and avoid army duties as long as they were "really learning".

However, I agree with you in most cases, and this has probably gotten out of control as many kids are simply not cut out to be great Torah scholars but are told to learn all day anyway, unsuccesfully. I do think this is tragic in many cases and can cause those children to get frustrated and leave Torah observance altogether :o.

Dominater96:

--- Quote from: lubab on June 11, 2007, 12:34:28 PM ---Thank you JDL4ever for this.

I would just note that for a minority of people it may be appropriate to work out an arrangement where one learns and the other works and supports the one who learns. This was the arrangement that was in place by fathers of the Tribes Yissachar (learned all day) and Zevulun (did business and supported Yissachar).

Chaim did say in a previous AskJTF that in a Kahanist run Israel some would be allowed to learn full time and avoid army duties as long as they were "really learning".

However, I agree with you in most cases, and this has probably gotten out of control as many kids are simply not cut out to be great Torah scholars but are told to learn all day anyway, unsuccesfully. I do think this is tragic in many cases and can cause those children to get frustrated and leave Torah observance altogether :o.



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100% agreed. Learning full time is only is only for certain talmid chachamim. I do not think it a sin, but it should only be done by certain people.

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