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Joe Schmo

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2007, 08:27:44 PM »
This is exactly what I'm talking about.

From MSMBC, June 9, 2007:


"Sex offenders getting younger, more violent
Statistics show cases involving juveniles on the rise across United States"

Updated: 3:58 p.m. ET June 9, 2007
STOCKTON, Calif. - Courts have seen the number of sex offense cases involving juvenile offenders rise dramatically in recent years, an Associated Press review of national statistics found, and treatment professionals say the offenders are getting younger and the crimes more violent.

Some psychologists blame the increase in numbers — 40 percent over two decades — on a society saturated with sex and violence and the fact that many of the accused were themselves victims of adult sexual predators. Others say there aren’t more children committing such crimes, simply more awareness, better reporting and a general hysteria about sex offenders.

“I don’t think it’s appropriate to suggest we have whole schools full of sexual predators ... but we’re seeing more of it and more sexually aggressive acts,” said Scott Poland, past president of the National Association of School Psychologists. “How do these kids even know about this? It’s permeated throughout our society.”

Robert Prentky, a psychologist and nationally renowned expert on sex offenders in Bridgewater, Mass., thinks the statistics are misleading.

“There aren’t more kids, there are more laws,” he said. “We now have fairly draconian laws with very harsh sanctions that apply to juveniles.”

‘Adult offenders of tomorrow’
The number of children under 18 accused of forcible rape, violent and nonviolent sex offenses rose from 24,100 in 1985 to 33,800 in 2004, the AP’s analysis found. Violent offenses include attempted rape and sexual assault, while nonviolent offenses including fondling, statutory rape and prostitution.

By comparison, rape and sexual assaults by adults decreased more than 56 percent from 1993 to 2004. Comparable statistics were unavailable before 1993.

The AP analyzed state and federal crime statistics, as well as independent research on juvenile sex offenders. Sources included the U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics; the National Center for Juvenile Justice, a Pennsylvania-based nonprofit that specializes in statistical and policy research; and The Safer Society Foundation Inc., a Vermont nonprofit that works to prevent sexual abuse.

Sharon Araji, an Alaska psychologist who took one of the first broad looks at the problem in her book “Sexually Aggressive Children,” thinks the number of child-on-child sex crimes is actually even higher than the statistics indicate.

Only 28 percent of all violent sexual assaults are reported to police, according to a 1999 National Crime Victimization Survey. And cases of incest between siblings are widely thought to be underreported and may drive the numbers even higher, Araji says.

“The whole society is not yet up on this problem,” Araji said. “These kids, on the extreme end, if nothing is done to catch them, they’re going to become our adult offenders of tomorrow.”

Studies show that one in two sex offenders began their sexually abusive behavior as juveniles.




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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2007, 06:16:16 PM »
The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2007, 06:59:08 PM »
The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...

Yes, indeed.

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2007, 08:07:37 PM »
The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...
You are exactly right!
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2007, 01:54:16 AM »
The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...

Yes... like Victoria Secrets at the mall where every 3 year old kid can see nudity on their signs. That's seriously wrong. Or the billboards for strip clubs or porn shops off the highway. It's hard to believe we allow this.

I can't count how many time I saw YOUNG kids (5 or 6) watching nasty MTV rap videos and their parents not seeming to care or notice... I mean like in the middle of Target!

What's the difference between a corporate molester and a child molester? One takes no responsibility for their actions.
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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2007, 06:31:54 AM »
So just out of curiosity, Scriabin, are you in favor of executing the "actors" in the porn films as well, if they are not underage? 

Some would say these people were forced into it, but I don't think that's always the case.

Some want the attention and hope to become famous.  If they're unable to get into a regular film, they see porn as a way of getting on screen and noticed.  I think there have been some people who've gone from a role in a porn film to non-porn films.

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2007, 06:35:14 AM »

Yes, of course.  They'd be given the opportunity to quit, but once the law is passed...

Sure they're forced into it...by the love of money!



That is why I think women are the biggest victims of pornography of all--even more than children, even more than the families of porn-addicted husbands.

Porn is an offshoot, a side-effect of Women's Lib.  The Feminists didn't necessarily plan it that way, but that's what happened.

I disagree.  The psychological damage done to children that VIEW (I'm not talking about child porn) this stuff is immeasurable.  We've only begun to see the fallout from this.

When Uday and Qusay Hussein were children, Saddam had them observe--up-close and personal--all manner of torture, murder, rape, execution...you name it.  It must have 'worked', we know how they turned out.


I don't think there's a consensus among feminists.  Don't some argue that porn oppresses and objectifies women--causes men to view them as only sex objects-- while others argue that it liberates them? 

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Re: Scriabin wants to execute pornographers?
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2007, 06:36:12 AM »
The problem extends beyond porn itself, on TV there are adverts featuring half naked women, there are advertisement banners around towns with women wearing only a bikini on them, sex seems top be being thrust in the faces of everyone everywhere they go, and people wonder why there are more sex offenders...

There are always commercials about viagra.