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Is a righteous gentile saved?
newman:
--- Quote from: SanDiegoShana on June 18, 2007, 11:21:58 AM ---Newman, my old office-mate/co-counsel used to tell me I knew more about Judaism than did half the people in his Synagogue. ;D
I can even sing the Shema.
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It happens alot these days. I have a few secular jewish friends and anything they know about Judaism they learned from me!
How screwed up is it when jews are cooking bacon on saturday morning and a gentile(me) shakes his head in disgust and says "averah......shabbat!" >:(
Lubab:
--- Quote from: SanDiegoShana on June 14, 2007, 12:50:18 AM ---A related question I have as a Christian- I often wonder if G-d had one requirement for Gentiles in the book of Moses, why a different set of rules now, if G-d is unchanging, as we believe He is....are any of the promises to Abraham promises to the Gentiles? What about the law to tithe and the promises to fill the barns, applicable to Gentiles?
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In Judaism the requirements of the Bible for gentiles are every bit as in effect and unchanged as they were when they were given.
Someone already mentioned to you about a promise to Abraham applicable to the gentiles. I would just add that gentiles are assured great reward for their good deeds and this especially includes giving to charity.
kahaneloyalist:
--- Quote from: SanDiegoShana on June 14, 2007, 12:50:18 AM ---A related question I have as a Christian- I often wonder if G-d had one requirement for Gentiles in the book of Moses, why a different set of rules now, if G-d is unchanging, as we believe He is....are any of the promises to Abraham promises to the Gentiles? What about the law to tithe and the promises to fill the barns, applicable to Gentiles?
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Hashem has no requirments upon the Goyim in the Torah, that is only for the Jews.
No you have no share in the promises made to Avraham, again only for the Jewish people.
No tithes dont apply to you
newman:
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on June 20, 2007, 06:53:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: SanDiegoShana on June 14, 2007, 12:50:18 AM ---A related question I have as a Christian- I often wonder if G-d had one requirement for Gentiles in the book of Moses, why a different set of rules now, if G-d is unchanging, as we believe He is....are any of the promises to Abraham promises to the Gentiles? What about the law to tithe and the promises to fill the barns, applicable to Gentiles?
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Hashem has no requirments upon the Goyim in the Torah, that is only for the Jews.
No you have no share in the promises made to Avraham, again only for the Jewish people.
No tithes dont apply to you
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The promise to Avrom included a promise to bless "those " who bless his seed and curse "those" who curse them. "Those" has to refur to gentiles as there are only three parties here. So gentiles are included as far as that bit is concerned, but talmudic law does NOT apply, only the 7 laws of Noach .
Lubab:
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on June 20, 2007, 06:53:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: SanDiegoShana on June 14, 2007, 12:50:18 AM ---A related question I have as a Christian- I often wonder if G-d had one requirement for Gentiles in the book of Moses, why a different set of rules now, if G-d is unchanging, as we believe He is....are any of the promises to Abraham promises to the Gentiles? What about the law to tithe and the promises to fill the barns, applicable to Gentiles?
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Hashem has no requirments upon the Goyim in the Torah, that is only for the Jews.
No you have no share in the promises made to Avraham, again only for the Jewish people.
No tithes dont apply to you
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Kahaneloyalist,
I'm a little surprised by your comments here. Of course there are requirement for gentiles in the Torah! All of the Noachide laws are sourced there, taken mainly from the early parts of Bereishit (Genesis).
Did you have a bad experience with a gentile today? ;D
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